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Gov. Schwarzenegger Says Parents Decide

Posted by: Rich Shipe on March 10th, 2008
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“Every California child deserves a quality education and parents should have the right to decide what’s best for their children. Parents should not be penalized for acting in the best interests of their children’s education. This outrageous ruling must be overturned by the courts and if the courts don’t protect parents’ rights then, as elected officials, we will.”

This is very good but somewhat contradictory. I wish that second sentence was not in the statement because it seems to say that parents have rights as long as the government clears it first. It is identical to the approach of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child in that parents are free to decide as long as it lines up with what the government has cleared as in the “best interest of the child.”

I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt considering how well stated it is in the first sentence.

  • I am the proud Nana of my daughters home-schooled sons. The education they are reveiving (at their parent’s expense financially) never fails to amaze me. Nathan is 12 and grade levels above his present 7th grade levels. They are involved in so many activities and busy with the schools week studing history, science, math, music and the list goes on. Ryan who is 6 reads very well(he learned Phonics) and have a vocabulary that astounds people when they talk to him. He does crafts and scientific experiments and understands what ists all about!! The have the freedom to think for themselves, explore, find out what makes things tick by their love for reading. They are expopsed to the same HISTORY about the U S. That I studied in school, and know all out Presidents and what they stood for. They are healthy, happy, proud of their heritage, confident, loving, and best of all learning to live life and understand that God created them with a purpose, for a purpose, and he is proud of my daughter and her husbands sacrifice to do home-schooling. Their Dad teaches and shares the respondsibility with my daughter and takes seriously what the Lord said about his role as Husband, father-head of househol, Dad. The bottom line is respect and care for the gift of their children. They could take the eazy way and send them to public school, but they want more than “a political correct child!!! They want a FREE-THINKING, God fearing child and adult. Thats the only way they know how to teach them to survive living OF the world NOT IN IT. The sacrifice will be well worth their time and they see it everyday in their sons.

    RoseMary Heavner
    Mar 10 at 1:11 pm
     
  • If parents have to be credentialed to teach their kids, then will the teachers stop giving homeworks? I’ve been told over and over again by school staffs and officials that my(parent)involvement in my childrens education is a direct reflection of the kids academic success. Does this only apply to parents with credentials? Who is going to start teaching babies to crawl, walk, talk, potty train etc.? What’s going to happen to the businesses that market educational products for parents to help their kids? There’s a huge market of educational toys, books computer programs so parents can help their kids be successful in school? With all the schools being closed down in California, are the children really getting a better education than the kids whos parents sacrifice to provide the best for their kids and the future of our community and country? What’s next everyone will have to get a credential to have kids? Just thinking out loud…how are they going to enforce that every child in California be enrolled in school? How about actually attending the school they enrolled in? What is going to happen to all the drop outs? What taxes/bonds are they going to have to raise to staff this new ruling? We can’t afford to keep schools open, hire teachers, provide music or art and other elective courses, but we are going to make it illegal for parents to teach their children? Who will teach our children morallity? Respect for others rights. Did the legal court forget that many of the forefathers of this country where homeschooled or self taught. What about private schools will they make sure that all teachers be credentialed? If we can give women the right to chose to have an abortion, can’t mothers and fathers have the right to chose the type of education to provide for the children they chose to keep? What happened to those kids is apauling, but do we need to sentense all parents? Will the courts start shutting down all schools because one teacher molests a student? Why didn’t the courts closed down the White House for the indescretionary conduct of the X-Presidents and their staffs? Can the courts see where this might lead? Will they require everyone to have teaching credentials, because as a mom I’ve experience my children learning from other kids inappropriat behavior. As many homeschooling parents know children/people in general learn from many sources and locations, not just from parents or schools. How come we can pass a law preveting parents the right to chose and provide education for their children, but we can’t stop the TV/media from broadcasting programs that destroys the moral value of our society? I do not currently homeschool. However I would like the option, if my childrens educational experience is compromised in anyway. The legal system is putting out mixed messages for parents. On one hand parents can’t teach their kids, but on the other hand the parents are legally held liable for their kids actions(ie. distroying other peoples properties, kids breaking community curfew).

    A concerned mother.
    Mar 10 at 3:24 pm
     
  • Homeschooling without a teaching credential has worked for 2 graduated sons and now a 5 year old daughter. We homeschoolers have been doing this for a long time with terrific results. It’s the Certified Public/Govt School Teachers who are not doing such a great job!

    Lauralee Wagner
    Mar 10 at 3:29 pm
     
  • I was homeschooled, I”m 17 going on 18, I have a job, I work hard, I take college classes. I am not slower than anyone, I’m not an idiot and I think it’s a sign of the times. It’s like welfare, no one can be better than anyone else, we all have to be equal. THe govt spreads the success among everyone, even if they don’t deserve it. You know homeschooling is a chance one on one with your own children. Not governing anyone else’s children, they get your nurturing. It goes back to the 10 commandments, “thou shalt honor your mother and father”. Whatever they want for you is what is the best!

    Ethan Wagner
    Mar 10 at 3:44 pm
     
  • Another thought, I AM GOING TO HOMESCHOOL MY CHILDREN SOMEDAY, but now what??????

    Ethan Wagner
    Mar 10 at 3:47 pm
     
  • Ethan, you do it anyway.

    I have 5 children and successfully
    schooled them all. Three are in college doing very well. One is rebellious and has tried the public system to come home and ask me to take him back. I love confirmation! ONe is in 5th grade watching the show and learning more than her siblings.

    This too will pass if we stand together.

    Kim
    Mar 10 at 8:28 pm
     
  • I have homeschooled my children for the past three years. My youngest child knows no other type of education. I have a B.S. in Education, but I do not believe this makes me any more qualified to home school my children than my friends who teach their children at home without degrees in education.
    What I learned in college about how children are taught most effectively always involves a secure, positive,self-motivating, loving,and nurturing envirment that is also free of physical and/or emotional injury. What I mostly learned in college is that most public schools have totally lost sight of what matters most — the child. The biggest question is this where public education is involved, Does the end always justify the means? Most children in public schools are stressed out due to frantic teachers
    and schools more worried about End Of Grade test scores than the well-being of the child. Not to mention school shootings becoming a regular headline on national news.
    What happened to the children in the abuse case in California was a horrible event; but abuse cases occur in public schooled childern as well. One event can not sterotype all homeschoolers. What about all of the positive outcomes of homeschooling? Is the government going to throw the baby out with the bathwater?

    This now is the time that we have to remember what our forefathers stated long ago, “We the people….”.

    This country was founded on the idea that we decide our laws through representative government. As homeschoolers we have to stand together on this idea. Just because one family who happened to homeschool broke the law, does not mean that all homeschoolers are criminals. I still can not get over the ignorance or audacity of the California judges who implied such a thing.

    Leigh
    Mar 10 at 10:29 pm
     
  • The thing is, that a teaching credential doesn’t really teach you anything about what you are teaching, but how to teach a large class. Making lesson plans, activities and all of that. For every credit hour of actual study like art, history or math, in most programs you have at least twice as many credits in “education”.

    Secondly, what I would like to know is how this “education” type credit will benefit the homeschool family. We do things totally upside down and backwards from these methods.

    We have math in the kitchen making cupcakes, and science in the garden. We don’t need to know how to set up lessons for 30 kids at a time. Just a few. We are able to look around and use life to teach kids what they need to know. It’s easy.

    How many adults don’t understand what 1/4 of a cup of flour is? Not very many, and so, they can explain fractions to a kid in a way that kids understand and enjoy. Homeschooling works because of the freedom to use these methods.

    My point is, that the education credential is useless anyway, because it is gears towards a different educational approach. One which in my opinion only works well on a small percentage of the children who are forced to endure it.

    Allena
    Mar 11 at 12:46 pm
     
  • My primary concern here is that somehow our society has come to believe that the government has a right to say what goes on in our home. Over the years the government has slowly but surely taken steps to control every aspect of our lives, and we the people have become so numb to it that we hardly notice our freedoms slipping away. We have become so reliant on the government to fix all our problems that we have allowed them to fix “problems” that they have no business fixing.

    I believe every parent should have the right to decide whether or not to put their child in the public school system or keep them out of it. If we allow the government to say I do not have this right as a parent, then what else will they tell me I do not have the right to decide?

    Amber Morford
    Mar 11 at 2:51 pm
     
  • Do not forget that Arnold’s father was a NAZI. I voted for him, now I wonder if that was a mistake. He promised to take care of our kids. Guess he wants to control them himself.

    Jerry Homeschool dad
    Mar 11 at 6:46 pm
     
  • As a mom that home schools, and is legally capable of substitute teaching I find this appalling. It should be a right. I know that my religion requires it.

    Dody
    Mar 12 at 1:36 am
     
  • Though the wording may be questionable it seems that he is supporting parents’ rights.

    I can’t help but particularly agree with “concerned mom.” Public schools send home four hours of homework every day, yet we lack the necessary credentials to help them do it! Now what??? I have defended my right to homeschool against every ignorant, nosey, self-righteous individual I have met since I began, but I never thought I would have to defend myself against the government. This will NOT stand, and hopefully we will not fail to stand against it!

    Catherine
    Mar 12 at 3:26 pm
     
  • What is sad to me is I know people who are teachers and THEIR morals and standards are on a MUCH different level than those of my husband and I. I would be extremely anxious to send my child to a school with those who believe that it is “OK” to pass out condomns. In addition, some of my public school teacher friends have told me that 80% of their time is spent disciplinging children. In other words if your child is in a 50 min class FORTY minutes of that class is “learning” discipline and TEN minutes of learning the subject they are attending!!! This is just an OUTRAGE!

    Tami
    Mar 13 at 7:59 am
     
  • I am sorry I just realized I did not even comment on the governer’s comment…nor will I. I just pray that he will support the decision to overturn the ruling.

    Tami
    Mar 13 at 8:03 am
     
  • Let’s not forget the governor is the one who signed SB 777 into affect for those of us who live in CA. I for one do not trust a single word that comes out of his mouth.

    Rachel
    Mar 13 at 2:00 pm
     
  • There are a lot of teachers in our family that see first hand the failure of the public school system because of flawed policy decisions.

    We say “no thank you” for our kids.

    homeschooling mother
    Mar 13 at 6:01 pm
     
  • I am the home-schooling parent of four beautiful grown daughters. My husband and I homeschooled our girls over a period of 16 years. Our girls are living proof, like thousands of other homeschooled young men and women, that success is measured not only in completion of grade 12 education, but also crosses into preparedness for college, the job market and becoming contributors to the world around them. Our eldest daughter is now a piano teacher, who also works part time for an attorney’s office and is raising her young daughter with every intention of continuing the family values of educating her child in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. Her twin sister attended junior college maintaining a 4.0 GPA and is now married and teaching piano to over 30 students. Our middle girl will receive her Associates Degree at a community college and will be attending a Cal State University in the fall. She is on the deans list for high academic achievement. Our youngest daughter is working in a lead position, living with her sister on her own in their common college town, and will be starting at a community college this summer. All of our girls hold God in high esteem, and live lives that uphold the moral standards of the bible. Though homeschooling was often difficult and left my husband and I little time for personal “development”, the most important personal accomplishment a parent can claim is the successful walk with God and positive impact their child has on the world around him/her. We support the right to homeschool and affirm that it is not only our constitutional right, but is for many the clearest and best path to educating their children.

    Andrea Smith
    Mar 13 at 10:42 pm
     
  • lets all just PRAY

    its the only way…………

    julie
    Mar 13 at 11:12 pm
     
  • AMEN to all of the above comments. Government should stay out of the home in all cases. Our grandchildren are home schooled and they are above average for their grade level in all subjects. They are also polite, well-mannered children and they can say the pledge of alliance to this country each and every day and pray out loud in their school at home. Pray that more and more parents decide to home school and that this country gets back to where it started—with God at it’s roots. He is our only hope for the future of this country.

    Mary Boasso
    Mar 14 at 1:36 am
     
  • I homeschooled two of my four children, now 20 and 18, for 13 years each. My youngest will graduate this year. He already holds down a full-time job. His employers is very happy with his work ethic and plans to promote him. My daughter has been a missionary in Cambodia for two years. She hope to someday return home and get a medical degree.
    I am now the guardian of my grandaughter, age 8. Her mother is one of my children who was not homeschooled. There are many issues on why she is doing so poorly at 30. Public school is only a small facet of a very big picture for her. My granddaughter is enrolled in public school. I am irritated every day. There is not a single note sent home from her teacher which doesn’t contain a mis-spelled word…triing, were (for where), now (for know). These were handwritten notes, so typos are not the reason. Mind you, all of these are words one would expect a 2nd grader to know.

    When I noticed some Mandarin characters on the bulletin board, I offered a visit from my daughter, who had visited mainland China and speaks some Mandarin. I was told they don’t have much time for social studies, they are too busy with English and math. This was reflected in the report card I recieved. There were numerous sub-catagories for English and math, while history and science were just one grade each.

    I have been told many times the CA schools are teaching to the standardized tests. This is proof to me. I am glad there is a focus on English and math, but where will we be without our politicians, historians, lawyers, congressmen, medical persons, inventors and scientists? To say nothing of our Christian representatives in these areas. This is a crime. I know these subjects will be better covered in the later years, but the “delight” for these subjects is learned early.

    In the later years, I believe the main emphasis is still English and math…the exit example only cover these subjects.

    Our public schools as a whole are a mess. Dedicated parents, even without credenials, do at least as well, and in many cases better.

    Susan
    Mar 15 at 5:55 pm
     
  • This shouldn’t be just about homescholing it should be about parents losing their children who got their rights terminated by the government false statemenents on a poor parent and stealing our children away from us how many parents got their children taken away or knows someone who got their children snatch away by the greedy government who is making money off our children and putting them in fostercare or adoptions thats how they get their money they stayed employed that way that is FRAUD and running a scandal that should be illegical.

    Terri Rote
    Mar 22 at 2:01 pm
     

   

   

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