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We Cannot Trust the Parents

Posted by: Rich Shipe on April 28th, 2008
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Implicit or explicit in the arguments of greater government intrusion in families is that we can’t trust parents (e.g. the debate over homeschooling in California). Never said but always implicit in those arguments is that government can always be trusted with children without check.

When anyone says that we should abandon the fundamental right of parents in favor of the “best interest of the child” they are saying that parents cannot be trusted and government can.

Those of us that support the parental rights doctrine say that the presumption of trust should be with the parents. As a society we have always presumed that parents love their children and want what is best for them. As Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger said in the Parham v. J.R. (1979) opinion:

The law’s concept of the family rests on a presumption that parents possess what a child lacks in maturity, experience, and capacity for judgment required for making life’s difficult decisions. More important, historically it has recognized that natural bonds of affection lead parents to act in the best interests of their children.

The statist notion that governmental power should supersede parental authority in all cases because some parents abuse and neglect children is repugnant to American tradition.

I love that line, “repugnant to American tradition.” Speaking of repugnant to the American tradition, check out this video that highlighs the sad tale of government power intruding into the family:

Tell your friends and get them involved!

  • This does not surprise me at all. That is the way the Federal Government is doing everything these days. They blackmail states and communities throughout the country into doing what they want by offering or withholding federal monies that belong to the people anyway. They do it in education to promote their social and other agendas that are aimed at destroying the American Family. The power behind these agencies is the U.S. Congress, the executive branch, and the courts. In other words, our country has been hijacked and the people we entrust to govern us are now turning the country upside down. Destroy the family. Destroy your religious beliefs. You do this by manipulating the children beginning in the public schools. Now, there are programs that put children in government brainwashing institutions earlier and earlier. They offer free childcare centers, Head Start, and other places where this social engineering is begun earlier and earlier. Americans had better wake up and start taking our country back, beginning with taking our children back. Thank You–M. Jerome Ennis, MAed. at jgreyh960@aol.com or jeromeennis@aol.com. I would like to be more involved and lead a charge against this tyranny of the first order.

    jerome ennis
    Apr 28 at 12:14 pm
     
  • this is the most scary thing i have every seen.

    vicky
    Apr 28 at 5:16 pm
     
  • The children are being “sold.” This is a crime and definitely a violation of the Constitution. The children are being SOLD. Check the definitions in the law. Appeals must address the real problem.

    Don’t Give Up Our Rights
    Apr 29 at 11:38 am
     
  • I am praying that the Lord will prevail upon the hearts and minds of our governmental authorities to shift their focus from trying to “protect” our children from us to supporting parents and providing aid to those families who face insurmountable challenges reflected in cases of neglect and abuse.

    Janelle P. Martin
    Apr 29 at 7:06 pm
     
  • Isn’t there another name for this? I think its COMMUNISM!!!

    We can see how those in authority “know best”. How many teachers have been arrested in the past year alone for crimes against childryt6567en/students?

    mom
    Apr 29 at 7:17 pm
     
  • Vote Ron Paul if you want to keep your rights and not become a comrade.

    marbol
    Apr 29 at 7:26 pm
     
  • Jerome you summed it all up. We need to stand up and fight for our rights as parents and stop letting government run our lives.

    d repp
    Apr 29 at 7:59 pm
     
  • And what frightens me even further with this entire situation is what’s just happened in Texas. Whether or not we agree with the religion or lifestyles of the RLDS church there, the fact is that the state suddenly decided that their whole community is, in their eyes, “wrong” and has destroyed their families and community by taking more than 400 children from the only homes they’ve ever known. And who on earth knows if those parents will ever see their little ones again. It’s state/federal control. It’s the state/federal gov’t/CPS deciding what’s right. What community are they going to intrude upon and destroy next? Absolutely nothing is sacred to them except themselves and their agenda.

    cg_lem
    Apr 29 at 8:16 pm
     
  • This goes to the arguement that there is a class-based animous against a class of individuals called parents. If you are a parent you are presumed guilty, you are presumed unfit and can not be trusted. On balance, the USSC opinion in Troxel v. Granville, the state must presume that parents are fit, competent and without defect. There must be a legal benchmark for the courts and parents to begin with. CPS also engages in the unlawful shifting of the burden from themselves to the parent. The Constitution is very clear, I need not have to prove my fitness or trustworthyness. As a parent, I am without defect from the legal point of view and the burden is on the state to prove otherwise. And fishing expeditions are on their face unlawful. And these phycological evaluations are nothing but that. It is just a means to build a case against you.

    Thomas M. Dutkiewicz, President
    Connecticut DCF Watch

    Thomas M. Dutkiewicz
    Apr 29 at 8:32 pm
     
  • We had our CPS moment last summer. The CPS worker said she could take our children because of the clutter. I have two children with special needs that keeps me on my toes and have been known to ransack a room in less than a minute. If the church ladies had not come to help me get my house closer to “perfect” I’m not sure what would have happened.

    There needs to be a objective measure of abuse and/or neglect. I love my children. I provide for the needs. They have good healthy food, clean clothes and a comfortable house to live in. Oh, and I homeschool and keep up with their medical needs. Two of my children have gone on to earn college degrees. One has a master’s. I have one more in college right now. My house may have clutter, but it is clean. I don’t know of any law that requires that your house be perfect at all times! I am out-numbered. I don’t have money to pay for help and I don’t want the government’s help either. I know I am not alone.

    Out-Numbered Mommy
    Apr 29 at 9:59 pm
     
  • This is what happens when funding is tied to any sort of outcome. If they got bonus money for returning children to parents, then kids would be sent back before it was safe for them to return. Let the agencies have the money they need to function, put good people in charge who aren’t paid “incentives” one way or the other, and make the goal supporting the family.

    Anne
    Apr 29 at 10:13 pm
     
  • It is indeed very frightening to know that someone can call in a “false report” and then have our children removed from a good , Christian loving home where they are cared for and loved. To think that this has happened to hundreds of children who WERE in good care…! We must take our country back, for the sake of our children. It can begin by homeschooling. Schools can ruin the minds of our children. I know. I’m a retired teacher of 31 years!

    Gail
    Apr 29 at 10:38 pm
     
  • To Outnumbered Mommy:
    I also am a homeschool mother of 3 of my kids. We just started homeschooling. I just wanted to pass a bit of advice to you. You need to get ahold of HSLDA(Home School Legal Defense of America). The government has no right nor authority to come into your home without your permission. You do not have to let them in your home. If they do manage to come and threaten you, call the HSLDA and let them know. They are a legal system that will come in and protect you legally. They have a website that is http://www.HSLDA.com or .org. Anyway, just thought I’d pass that along, in case you didn’t know about them.

    Homeschool Mom
    Apr 29 at 11:35 pm
     
  • I agree. We are the parents of these children and we have a God Given Right to raise them,educate them and discipline them the way WE want. FLDS incident in Texas is a prime example. Those children are loved and taught by their family(s) in a way that the GOVT doesnt agree with so they take them.. now they have found out that it was a 30 yr woman in Colorado that filed the FAKE report to CPS and YET the Gov’t wont just give them back.
    CA states that a parent to homeschool needs a STATE teacher certificate — and now has a bill on the books to make spanking your child a criminal offense…

    The Gov’t needs to keep its hands,its brainwashing, anti family, anti learning ways off my kids. I homeschool in Alaska- one of the only states where the govt actually stays out of your business and lets you parent.

    The Gov’t’s interference in the public school system is why we have Seniors graduating without being able to read the words on their own diplomas — they took away the childs right to fail.. social passing and teaching to those lame tests and govt dangling of the free money is taking away parents rights to educate and raise their kids.

    No Govt has the right to tell me what, how and when I can teach my kids. I know them better than any govt. I have been with them since the minute they were born.. they are MINE to raise as I see fit.. not some Govt Agency.

    We need to make the Govt back the Frack off and leave us all be.

    Alaska Mom
    Apr 29 at 11:41 pm
     
  • As a school counselor I see many opportunities the state could bring families together into a functional unit. These families may not be the traditional father, mother, and children but they could be functioning in the best interest of the child an the family with active interventions with financial aid and a live in worker to establish good habits and values within the perimeter of most social norms.
    As an educator I always believe that people will learn when given regular consistent attention and have some self-esteem. Offer the families these things and as costly as it could be there could be a real benefit for the community. It might even reduce the need for so many executive social workers!

    Don Long
    Apr 30 at 12:22 am
     
  • It is absolutely outrageous the government has so much power to protect us from ourselves! They miss a lot of the kids that are truly abused and pick on those that are innocent. I know, my abuse as a child was missed. As most abused children will tell you, you hide the bruises/scars, etc. because you are ashamed of them, or they will get you hurt worse if they get noticed.

    To protect our babies
    Apr 30 at 12:23 am
     
  • In response to Outnumbered and Homeschool moms:
    I live in MO and had my 6y/o daughter taken from me because I went BACK to homeschooling! They kept her for a little over a month, and gave her back only because my husband and I agreed to keep her in school for the rest of school year. They walked into my home WITHOUT a warrent, they did NOT knock on my door- just walked in and shut the door and walked into her room. When she was 4y/o they also pulled this bull! They pushed my husband out of their way that time and threatened to taser him! I came home from school (I was in college- which they cost me!) and I asked them if they had a warrent to which they stated that they did not. I told them to get out! They did not. They took pictures of my home and broke my office door! My home business door was clearly marked as such. By law they MUST have a warrent to go in a business! I was not allowed to have recourse against them, nor do I seem to be able to this time either! HLDA refused to help us so don’t trust them! I took my rights with us to court in March and the judge was going to give her back forthwith, BUT my daughter’s teacher(!) had sent a 3 page letter full of lies which CPS gave the judge as he was getting ready to leave. I was not allowed to know what was in the letter till after the judge left for the day. I made a rebuttal, but I was not able to give it to the judge before the next day. He had the teacher’s letter to sleep on over night. The “foster parents” stole my daughter’s clothes and gold earrings! I am still waiting to get stuff back from them! I had just bought a brand new pair of boots for her and have not recieved them back- nor the pair of $200 real gold earrings. They returned a single earring to me and it is NOT the earrings that she had in when she left. The earring that was returned is a fake! It is smaller than what she was wearing and changing colors! Real gold doesn’t turn green! She has had those earrings since she got her ears pierced at 4! If she hasn’t lost a single earring for 2 years- HOW can she all the sudden lose 1 while in State care? 2 years ago when they took her she was molested in care! I had a friend who filed to get her the first time and they took a week extra to get her to our friend!
    In response to To protect our babies: I know exactly what you mean! I was abused in foster care and told. I was not allowed to see my mother for a MONTH! When my aunt wanted to see me and give me my Christmas gift- she had to PAY the foster mother to ssee me and right after she left her youngest son destroyed my gift! I was told that I was to tell her (If she asked) that I lost it or acidently dropped it into the outhouse! I learned after that- you don’t report what happens. You the child will pay.
    As far as the FLDS goes they had no right to STEAL over 400 children from their families over a fraudulant hotline call. They are stealing children right after they are born- CPS and cops were waiting right outside of a birthing room where a 18 y/o woman was giving birth and CPS declared that she is underage and so they could take the child! IF we let them get away with this who will be next? The Amish or one of us?
    When the States say we have no right to homeschool, to “punish” our children, to be parents(!) what do we have? COMMUNISM! Do we want to live in a Communist community? I don’t!

    Longing for GOD’s Vengence.
    Apr 30 at 2:43 am
     
  • It is so VERY sad and VERY scary to read some of the stories posted here. I cannot believe that the government has so much power that it can do such horrible things to it’s people!
    When did this happen? Were we all asleep? We need to wake up and fight for our country back. The government is supposed to be for the people, by the people. Our government is WAY too powerful right now and that needs to stop!
    I agree with Jerome and I wanted to tell “Out-Numbered Mommy” to hang in there, I am praying for you and all the other parents out there!
    One last thing, what about the news media, they are constantly taking every little story they come across involving homeschooling or a neglected child and making out to be so big and so terrible, and you know that some details that may make the parents look innocent are of course left out! That makes people start to view all parents in a bad light or with suspicion! We, as parents need to band together and make this stuff stop, that is the only way it will happen! We need to take back control. God Bless!

    Melinda
    Apr 30 at 6:45 am
     
  • this is scary and this almost happened to us last year. It has changed us forever. People in this country are so quick to point the finger and if they don’t like you they’ll just make it up. The horrendous thing is its the ‘pointers’ that are the dangerous people. They are so imperfect themselves that it is a form of projection of themselves upon others, you know the old magic trick, look over here so you don’t see whats going on over here. YOu know our judicial system doesn’t just put anyone on a jury, why on earth would you just take a tip or trust a source that is unknown. This is the only system, the cps, that’ll take a tip from just about anyone. I plead with filmmaker michael moore , please make this the topic of your next film, I almost lost my child over a false accusation, we homeschool now but we live in constant fear of someone judging us we live under great pressure. We never knew things like this could happen in this country.It put a huge shadow over the whole childhood experience, we’d been so happy up til then. Since that time we have heard of horrors stories everywhere. One in six families have had something horrible happen with cps.The gov. needs to look into what is going on.The first thing that should be trimmed from the budget are fifty percent of the cps workers . They are damaging and ruining families.My child always wanted to have children someday. Sadly , our experience has changed that dream .

    jay
    Apr 30 at 7:11 am
     
  • The issues raised here about the state/federal gov’t overstepping their bounds are indeed scary…but I have to agree with the on-going Texas case regarding the polygamy sect.

    These children ARE in harm’s way!!

    They have brain-washed mothers who are duped into allowing their 13-17 year old daughters be molested!

    In my opinion, this is not simply having a ‘religious belief’ the state disagrees with….It is a situation where they (the mothers) are consciously offering their children to be ravaged and exploited!

    Brenda in MD
    Apr 30 at 7:30 am
     
  • I agree with your comments on the polygamy case in Texas, Brenda. The problem is that the state will use that case as justification for extending their authority to cases where there is no true abuse. The goal is to portray ALL children as victims or potential victims and in need of state protection. If the presumption is that all children are victims or potential victims, then all parents are abusers or potential abusers. This perspective colors the actions of the state in matters regarding parental rights.

    Consider the fraudulent story a couple of years ago about the homeschooling family in New Jersey that was abusing some of their foster children. The press made it look like the abuse went undetected because of the family’s decision to home school. They left out the fact that social services in New Jersey had received reports and regularly visited the home and ignored the abuse. So, the problem wasn’t abusive foster parents and incompetent or negligent state officials - the problem was homeschooling!

    Bob Hunt
    Apr 30 at 8:18 am
     
  • Have you ever heard of a concept called innocent until proven guilty? What actual facts do we know about the Texas situation? Just two. 400 plus children have been removed from their parents. No arrests have been made.

    Jim Motok
    Apr 30 at 8:42 am
     
  • I read a comment saying you should vote for Ron Paul. Early this year when it was time for my sister to vote we went to went to http://www.citizenlink.org voter’s guide which I would encourage everyone to go to before deciding who to vote for. It is a complete list of everything each canadite stands for and opposes. Unfortunitly none of us had takin the time to research who was running intill the day of voting. Because of this I am interested in politics. I wish I had known more before so I could have talked with people who said stuff like “Oh I’m voting for this guy because my friend says he’s really good.” Maybe Ron Paul is the best I don’t know enough to say one way or the other. I hope this guide will help others to make a knowledgable decision on who to vote for.

    Elizabeth Fleig
    Apr 30 at 9:09 am
     
  • Anyone see the news item about the father who bought a beer for himself and a lemonade for his son at a ball game? It turns out the lemonade was “hard lemonade” and 5% alcohol, but the father had no idea. Security intervened and the child was taken to foster care. After homeschooling two children up to college, who are now grown, I could say, it’s not getting better. Redefinition of the family, the church and culture results in state as church and government as king. As a pastor I have seen the growth of ambivalence toward these ideas and issues in the church. We remain concerned for our children as they have their families.

    David Guthrie
    Apr 30 at 10:14 am
     
  • These stories totally blow my mind away! I knew there were issues out there, but honestly, not to the magnitude that I am hearing through these stories. What a sad world we live in. We are parents, we have rights, we have responsibilities to our children and families. Don’t let anyone or anything take that away from us. When it’s all said and done, justice will prevail.

    I am sickened by the allegations that hear on the news, which often leads me to turn it off. We are only offered what they want us to hear and know. It’s no wonder so many people THINK they are doing the right thing. We are often told the side of the minority and not the majority. There are still loving, kind, honest and caring people……as noted in these postings here. May we long for God to be ever present in our homes and country.

    Jensen
    Apr 30 at 10:25 am
     
  • I no longer use the services of WIC because it is state run (federal?) and some of the people didn’t agree with what my kids growth rates and eating habits (can you say small children with small appetites?). Although one nutritionist said that I was doing well and that the kids were growing proportionally correct (which is what the dr always says..and what the dr always look for), I still kept getting grief from the other person…even though their iron levels were always right on target and so forth! I don’t trust govt agencies because the law puts so much stock in their words. I believe God grew my husband’s income after we stopped using the state’s aid. That, to me, was a sign that we made the right choice! I know their is a need to protect children, but government is going (and has gone) way too far! People keep saying we to stand up and fight…what does that look like when fighting your own govt? I don’t know for sure. When your own elected officials make the decisions that they deem best (which is the response I usually get with my state), I know that we can elect new officials but only if everyone in your state agrees to do so. I live in a very democratic, liberal state so that doesn’t happen very often here. THere is the petition for parental rights amendment to be added to the constitution. That is a help…but what else can we do? The only other thing I know to do is raise and school my children in a God-fearing manner and get them politically involved as they start to understand things on that level. And of course, PRAY. ANyone else have any ideas of what it means to stand up to our government in the area of parent’s rights and less governmental control?

    lsal
    Apr 30 at 10:42 am
     
  • Being LDS I abhor the thought of the FLDS sect marrying off children! However, upon examination, the FLDS situation overall is a parent’s rights issue for all of those children that need reuniting with their mothers. Children taken from their home/family automatically see themselves as the cause of such a separation and take on fault- greatly increasing their distress. Social workers know this and they also know that children do best when they are reunited with their family if at all possible. What has been done in Texas is inexcusable under any moral society.
    Living in fear of our government is a terrible burden put upon parents. Good parents fear social services if they are aware at all of the government’s power. No family should have to go through interrogation unless the child is in clear and verifiable danger.
    My husband and I have five grown of our our nine children. Over the years we have been reminded often of this scenario in which children are taken away without justifiable cause. It should not color the way we live our lives, but it is a factor influencing our decisions daily.
    Homeschooling seems to foster suspicion, though among the Christian community that homeschools, it is a wonderful avenue for our children to be nurtured at home and in association with other homeschooled children. I find that those that are embroiled in the public school arena find homeschooling an affront and view it as a disloyalty to the “system” of education. That in itself leaves us at odds with parents and educators involved in public education.
    After talking with our local law enforcement about forced entry, I was informed that Social Services can, in my state, enter if there is an “imminent danger”- law enforcement will accompany the social worker, otherwise there needs to be a warrant.
    Some of the advice given has been to let them in and open our homes to them. Being antagonistic just infuriates them, encouraging them to wield more power in their investigation.
    It hasn’t come to that for me and I am not sure how I would handle a “visit” but I want to be prepared to know how to act if and when it ever comes my way.
    I too support Ron Paul. I would hope that there is some way that he could become elected.
    I know that prayer for our nation and our children is the most powerful tool we have.

    Ann
    Apr 30 at 10:55 am
     
  • I just had a run in with CPS for the first time this month. I did not let them in. The social worker threatened that she would return with a police officer.

    I turned to HSLDA. THey informed me that in the case of an anonymous call we don’t have to let them in. They can’t come in with a police officer without a warrant and to get a warrant a social worker has to get it before a judge and prove probably cause, which is difficult form one anonymous call.

    In our case this worked and she closed the case with inconclusive after we allowed her to talk to the children outside for a minute while we supervised. But I know it doesn’t always go down like that. We were lucky.

    carrien
    Apr 30 at 1:40 pm
     
  • It is a crime that our government would rather take away our parental rights rather than support families to succeed. This is just another attempt by government officials looking for “justification” of their being. If they didn’t fool the American citizens into thinking we not be able live in and function in our world without them, they may be out of a job - and an excellent retirement plan. This is all about money and power over the quality of human lives. It is disgusting!

    Katie in ME
    Apr 30 at 3:45 pm
     
  • Men especially need to get a backbone and without anger, but determination stand up for women and children. Men have become feminized and have dropped the ball. Think of the men from our early history who were more apt to have a backbone and defend the wrongs in society.

    Sal
    Apr 30 at 5:27 pm
     
  • I can not even comprehend all that I have just read. I am about to enter the homeschooling arena for the second time and I am absolutely disgusted with what is going on in this country. Our forefathers are probably turning over in their graves. What did they fight for? Rights for the PEOPLE not for the government!!!!!! Count me in to stand up for our rights.

    Brenda
    Apr 30 at 7:06 pm
     
  • Isal, you have the right ideas of how to start taking back control! Those are the perfect places to start! As parents, we have to stick together and form a strong united front. The more parents that get on board with doing the very things you mentioned, the stronger and louder our voices become and that cannot be ignored!

    Melinda
    May 1 at 8:59 am
     
  • […] should be aware of. What disturbed me the most was a video that was posted under the article, We Cannot Trust the Parents. Check it out and remember to be vigilant in prayer for our children and our country. Possibly […]

    ParentalRights « Women Studying the Scriptures
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  • I too turned away WIC after my first son was born because I read somewhere in the release they wanted me to sign that I would be authorising blood draws from my son. When I asked them the worker said it was an old form. I said I wouldn’t sign it.

    I tried it again during my second pregnancy, but the lady didn’t know what I meant when I asked her about the form, and she was really snotty to me, so I just said no thanks.

    Just because they offer a handout doesn’t mean we have to take it. My family has a pretty low income, but we work hard and make do.

    We homeschool and of course will support a parental rights amendment to the constitution. I beleive that the only reason the forefathers did not include one is because there was no way they could have forseen the need for it. I agree that they must be turning in their graves.

    Jen
    May 1 at 2:26 pm
     
  • C’mon, C’mon, we need to start galvanizing now…we’ve been lulled for too long thinking someone else will pick up the torch. Our children need us to make inroads NOW…this whole FLDS thing has haunted me since the first whispers of intervention by the “authorities” because I saw the apparent implications of the precedents that this will set. We represent the MAJORITY here in AMERIKA folks, NOT the minority…we have been taught for so long by our Christian beliefs to Turn The Other Cheek and forgive our enemies that we just shake our heads and wait for deliverance from the oppressors…but those are the people we have voted into office knowing not their hidden agendas. Here in Texas we should have organized a peaceful Walk on the state capital but we’ve let our astonishment and disbelief hinder our reaction time…We need to be PROACTIVE, EVERYWHERE because the sands are slipping away all to fast and getting the UN the WHO and all the other acronyms out of our lives, recovering COMMON SENSE and a tendency to THINK for OURSELVES rather than letting the “popular” opinion of the “Polls” and Spin Docs do it for us on the boob tube and the relentless Internet. Socialism and Communism is alive and WELL in Amerika…and we can’t see the forest for the trees. Divide and conquer is an age old war tactic and this country has been viewed as splintered but I think that we are still in time to stop the backslide and take back our ideals, our schools and our country…extremes on EITHER end are not good but let’s start to work on minimizing ALTERNATE (lifestyle) AUTHORITIES that have decided that ‘they’ have ALREADY won without ever even having to have fired off a shot…!

    Susy C
    May 1 at 5:04 pm
     
  • Nomatter what we have to do, we write that check off to HSLDA before we pay for anything else.
    We had to move far away from relatives. Because they have such drastically different worldviews from our own, they said that our lifestyle was too paranoid, not normal, not sane. (Courting, homechurching, etc.)
    How’s that for “tolerance”?
    We found friends among other parents who fight for their rights and advise anyone in a similar situation to do the same. Connection, networking is powerful. We need each other.

    Clara
    May 2 at 5:30 pm
     
  • This is not FREEDOM!!! IS that not what we are known for in AMerica. Yes there are children being abused in this country that is the ones they need to protect not the ones whos parents will stop at nothing to keep their babies safe. God tells us in his Word to Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. That is the instruction from our creator, the Government does not have any right on my kids, they do not rock them to sleep when they are scared or comfort them when they are sick or hold them when they cry or clothe them or feed them how can this be that they think that they are aloud to just take whatever children that someone else wants. Get in contact with DAVID GIBBS. AND PRAY THAT GOD WILL RETURN SOON!

    BLESSED MOMMY of 6
    May 3 at 12:05 am
     
  • This is COMMUNISM!! I can’t believe we have gotten so far from the beliefs and values and even intentions of our Founding Fathers, let alone the Bible!!Without the leading and direction of parents, our children are lost! We have social services that are SUPPOSED to be monitoring and intervening in abuse and neglect cases. If they would just do their job, we shouldn’t need this!!

    Jamie
    May 5 at 5:14 pm
     
  • The government is very hypcocritical!!!Its only wrong if they say its wrong. They do whatever they want whenever they want.(we need to stand up to the government.) With that case in Texas, he state doesn’t care that those children were taken care of properly or had loving homes they just seen money from child placement services.
    Its sad that our government is so two-faced and we all just “put up with it!!!!! letting them go on doing whatever they want. Just like the gas prices. I heard that there isn’t a bill “capping” the amount that we pay. If theres such a “shortage” like they say they why isn’t are gas rationed out like it was in the 60’s?

    julie
    May 5 at 7:01 pm
     
  • THIS IS TOTALLY SHOCKING! I am totally stunned by what I have read! Obviously, the majority of Americans must be totally unaware that such things go on.

    Where is 20/20? Where is Dateline? And as suggested above, where is Michael Moore? AMERICA NEEDS YOU!!!!!

    They say in the media that hype sells, which is apparnet in what we see and don’t see on the news. This should have a major “WOW Factor” and thus sell.

    One can only immagine what this country will be like in another 20 years if this is allowed to continue. What an incredibly frightening thought. It is like a sci-fi movie from the 70’s.

    This is nothing short of inhumane! I am all for abused children being protected but to steel children from their homes with no cause is literally kidnapping and human trafficking. Didn’t hundreds of thousands of men die over 200 years ago fighting to prevent just such things? Every American needs to be made aware of this and we cannot just wait for others put an end to it.

    Innumerable times I have seen where State and Us Congressmen and Senators as well as Govenors are inundated wth e-mail opposing certain impending legislature. The result of which has been for that threat to disappear. Their staff was overwhelmed by FAXs and e-mails to the point of not being able to deal with other issues. We need to inundate our elected officicls NOW. It may not be the best solution but it is a start. We should also inundate the producers and network executives for 20/20 and Dateline to get this issue in the forefront.
    This website has a complete list of all Congressional members and Governors for all states: http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm Send an e-mail to everyone you know and ask them to send e-mails to all of the Congressional members and Governors as well. Both State & U.S. Congressionla members. While we are at it let’s bombard the Clinton, Obama, & McCain’s campaign headquarters as well. Only when we get them to realize they can no longer ignore this issue will it be addressed, let alone resolved.
    Goverment funding has already ruined the school systems with the “No Child Left Behind” legislation. which requires each school to get a higher and higher state test score every year. Now schools that were already get 90 something (or 97 something in our local schools case) have to teach more and more to the test every year to get the same amount of money each year per student to pay for teachers. So they only are allowed to teach what they are being tested on until after the test (March here). The other subjects are sent home to learn without ever being discussed in the classroom. As a former school employee I have heard about this 1st ahdn through the principal and seen the huge difference between what my children were taught. They are only 2 grades apart.

    WE must stand up and take action, ALL OF US. It is not hard to take an hour (at the most) to type an e-mail, research the e-mail addresses for your elected officials, and sent them to those you know and your elected officials. Surely we all can give an hour for the children’s sake, for preservation of the family unit, and the preservation of “THE AMERICAN WAY.”

    Charlotte
    May 5 at 7:53 pm
     
  • We keep referring to the government as some entity over which we have no control. It is our responsibility to ensure that those we vote into office support our values. If there are no candidates that support these values one of us needs to stand up and give it a go.

    If the overwhelming number of people want to vote for Barabbas, then its clear what direction we’re going in.

    Matt
    May 5 at 7:56 pm
     
  • More parents need to learn about the “Reverse Miranda”. Copy it out, laminate it and give it to your kids for their safety. Role play with them on how to use it. See
    http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/info/reverse_miranda.htm

    Also, read up on what your rights are as a parent and learn how to protect yourself and your family from usurpations by CPS. Here is a good place to start, get the “Parent’s Guide to the System” and “Child Protective Services and the Juvenile Justice System: A Guide to Protect the Constitutional Rights of Both Parents and Children”.
    http://www.fightcpspackets.info/parentsguide.html

    If you don’t know what your rights are, how are you going to know how to protect them????

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    ThirstyBoots
    May 6 at 1:55 am
     
  • Any time money is involved you open the door for corruption. As the Bible says, “…The love of money is the root of all evil.” As a previous foster parent of 17 years I saw the OTHER end of this spectrum and it was not pretty. The terrible things that some birth parents do to and with their children is unspeakable. As a foster parent I advocated for these children to the point where on several occations I paid an attorney $5,000.00 to represent a child in Court in the hope that the minor would have a voice.

    Gayle Earnhart
    May 6 at 9:42 am
     
  • I am sadden by so much abuse the PARENTS have received from the govt. hand. So many are right. Pray, pray,pray. Men (husbands and/or fathers) LEAD your families. Know your rights as an AMERICAN citizen. Vote, vote, vote. Please stop calling on Michael Moore. He is a huge part of the problem in American thinking. I call on all parents to be critical thinkers, my title of sheep only falls under Christ Jesus. Being submissive is only for God and my husband. When it comes to fighting for my family, I am a she-wolf. Moms, I call on you to be in prayer, be keepers of your homes, and please do not trust the media, govt., or those who say they have your childrens’ interests at heart. THEY DON’T!! As far as the FLDS, the molestation of young girls and the abandonment of young boys must stop. The family, no matter how many wives, must be reunited. I pray for all those children that they will be returned to their homes soon. If the govt. can remove these children on one phone call, the govt. will remove our children too, as we have seen from these statements and that news clip.

    Bless all who love their children and God Bless America and lead us back to the freedoms we are letting go so easily.

    Rusty
    May 6 at 12:17 pm
     
  • After reading all the responses to this FLDS fiasco, I can’t help but put my feelings in the arena as well. I am appalled at our government and its representatives who “look out for us”. I try to do my part to notify my local state and federal reps of issues with family and education. They DO send you a condescending letter stating they are doing “what’s best for the constituency”. HOGWASH. They have their agenda and it certainly is not what you elected them to represent. But I still let them know they are way off base with their liberal ideas and the “government will take care of you because you do not” mindset. Maybe if more of us disgruntled masses corresponded our disapproval of some of the government programs and procedures, just maybe they would listen and be shaking in their boots worrying whether they would be in office come next election! I will do my best to discourage parents from sending their children to the public schools and losing their children to the SYSTEM and the mindwashing that occurs behind the school’s doors. I will do my best to help them within my world here to succeed in homeschooling as it has so many rewards! I homeschooled my 2 children for the first 7 years of education. They are in high school now and they tell me on a regular basis the lies they are told to absorb and regurgitate back on tests and they stand firm in their knowledge of the TRUTH. No one can push them around because they have been taught, not brainwashed by their loving parents. We need to train up more children in the way they should go and maybe, just maybe, we can put the lion (gov’t oppression) back in its pen. No time to take a back seat in this crucial issue. Anything you can do will have a major impact if enough of us concerned and discerning parents take action!

    Ronda in CA
    May 6 at 6:53 pm
     
  • I do not want to offend in making this comment!

    My wife and i home school our children. I do feel however if we are to make a positive movement towards effecting change in the minds of the vast majority of the voters in this country we are going to have to do away with all the comments like

    “…It can begin by homeschooling. Schools can ruin the minds of our children…”

    and the many others i keep reading in the blog notes.

    I have many friends and family members that do not home school and think we are off the planet by doing so. If all the blogs are continuing to appear so “pro-home school” i believe we are going to ostracize many that might otherwise see this something they want to be a part of.

    Matt
    May 7 at 11:51 pm
     
  • further to my last post:

    we have many wonderful friend and family members who do not home school. They are exceptional parent and would be greatly interested in protecting the rights of parents.

    please please please if you love home schooling, great we do also, but this is not the place to push those ideas. We need to not make this a home school/public school issue. Lets focus on the purpose of the proposed amendment, to ensure and protect the fundamental rights of parents from the pervasive attacks from government agencies and international lawmakers.

    Matt
    May 8 at 12:23 am
     
  • Matt, just a comment, not a critical remark. You are absolutely right about our focus should be on protecting our rights as parents, not fundamental rights, but unalienable. Unalienable refers to our rights being given to us by God. Fundamental rights can be opposed, changed or just plain taken away.

    I think our push on homeschooling and asking others who can (some can’t for survival reasons and do their best for their children), to stand for the right to homeschool (i.e. educate our children as we wish for religious, moral or personal choice reasons), as you do. I live in CA and some L.A. judge stated that homeschooling is NOT a parental right. Homeschooling is being attacked directly.

    There is a wonderful issue of The Old Schoolhouse Magazine that has articles dicussing this very subject. Please check the Spring 2008 issue (www.thehomeschoolmagazing.com).

    Just to reinterate, you are right Matt, I don’t believe that anyones’ intention was to put down families who choose public school, all parents must stick together.

    Blessings and prayers for you and your family.

    Rusty
    May 8 at 12:03 pm
     
  • Oops, I need to proof read better.
    http://www.homeschoolmagazine.com
    Sorry.

    Rusty
    May 8 at 12:04 pm
     

   

   

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