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My 4 children where taken away and i have done nothing wrong this is sick that we have State workers that THINK they can get away with this i love my children and want them back!!!!!!!!!!! stand up and fight we all need to stick together.they lie so bad it makes me sick

2 of my NONABUSED daughters were wrongfully removed by CPS 2 years ago with NO court order, just on the LIES my (then) 19 year old daughter told them. 1 daughter aged out and returned home. 1 remains in foster care against her will with NO ABUSE ever proven…because there wasn’t any! We are appealing to a higher court. The damage is done to my 2 girls. They are forever scarred and changed…thanks Texas!! Carmen Rodriguez BSN, RN http://texasroadrunner.spaces.live.com/
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My 4 daughters were taken because my (then) husband (their father) was sleeping while I was at work. DHS here in Iowa never asked or cared to hear my side of the story. I had to divorce him (against my religious beliefs) to begin fighting for custody. 4 years later, my children have been abused while in foster care and so a return home was delayed while I was investigated for the kids acting out imitating what they had learned in foster care. So now DHS is seeking to terminate–the only reason for this being that they have been away from me for so long, it would be “too traumatic” for them to return home. Its not anything that I have done to cause this, only overzealous workers who are useing me as a scapegoat to make sure that no more “bad publicity” happens. And at every turn I am told that I cannot fight the system. Any attempts to tell my side of the story are believed to be argumentative and uncooperative. No one cares that the parents rights are trampled (except for my lawyer and there is not much she can do). No one cares that the state lumps all parents who have had their children taken away together under the label of “inadequate”. So everyone looks down on me and nothing I can say is listened to because I am always wrong and the foster parent/caseworker is always right. In short they treat animals better than they treat us. We have absolutely no respect as a person. And we have to kowtow to every little word out of DHS’ mouth. this is not only disrespectful, it is insulting to my intelligence.

CPS is out of control. Several years ago, based on an accusation from CPS, I was subpoenaed to appear before the grand jury because my married daughter had decided to have her baby at home. Figure that out…?! Thank God for a godly DA who did not want to prosecute, in his words, a “witch hunt.”

This is unbelievable. We had better tell everyone we know because this affects us all, whether it be our own children, grandchildren, other family members, etc. Once one state passes a law, the other states look to it as a precedent in order to pass their own similar laws. This is where things begin to get out of control all over the nation. Just like Mary said, this IS a witch hunt and God forbid this be allowed to run rampant.

yes i agree CPs is out of control. I was investigated for an accusation that shouldnt have aplied to anything. The accusation was. My son was being raised by a homo sexual with aids. This is soemwhat true. My husband is hiv positive but doesnt in any way effect how we/he cares for our Son. This accusation shouldnt have even been taken or pursued.

Several years ago, a coworker of mine had her children removed from her home for over a month. She and her husband (father of 2nd child) went on vacation and the father of her first child (they never married) and his wife were babysitting. She had called to tell them there was milk in the house that they could get for the kids and other stuff in the fridge that they should take to their house and use it so it would not get wasted. Another friend was taking care of her cats. This friend had not been over yet the day her “babysitters” went to get items from the refrigerator. It was summer and they did not have the air running while they were gone. The house smelled from the litterbox not being changed. Laundry had not been finished before they left so was piled up and the cats had chosen to use this for a litter area too. The wife called DHS, who called the police to come make a report. When my friend got home from her vacation and went to get her children her ex (father of child 1) would not let her take them and called the cops who informed her she could not take the children as she was being investigated for neglect and endangerment. She had to leave her daughter, but was allowed to have her mother come get the son as he did not belong to her ex. This was a Friday night and she had to wait until Monday to even talk to a caseworker. After explaining to the caseworker that they were gone and the children were not even in her care when the police entered her home, the caseworker set a time to come see the home herself. She was subject to weekly inspections for a month before her kids could come home. In the meantime, her ex filed for custody and child support for the daughter. Never mind he had not paid his child support for at least 5 years. He said he would not file for the support if she agreed to drop the claim on back child support. At least the DHS worker caught on quickly. She recommended the children be returned home with no limitations and the report of neglect was unfounded and an act of retaliation on the part of the ex. Her ex also wanted her placed on the state child endangerment registry. The wise caseworker suggested that was not necessary because the children were not home at the time of the complaint so were never in any danger. All accusations were deemed unfounded. Too bad the kids had to be separated from their mother. At least it was with family and not foster care and was resovled quickly. Sad that this is not always the case.

We need to take control of our own lifes and of our childrens lifes also.
You know how many children have disappeared in the hand of this out of control government. And how many have put in homes that are runed by homosexuals. And how many are never found. How about those that are taken away just for the money. Each child abducted by this government, the judge gets $5000.00 and the lawyer $5000.00 and so forth. This government is out of control and it continues to become more abusive. We need a new government that is for the people and by the people.

I work for CPS (not as caseworker). While I sympathize with your situation I wanted to give another perspective. I just wanted to state that the problem does not lie it us it is the people who call the reports in on you. If those people did not make the calls then CPS would never be involved in the first place. The workers are just doing their job based on false information. People abuse the system by calling in false info or petty fights.We have to investigate EVERY case that is called in. So get mad at those people don’t get mad at the caseworkers who are just doing the best they can with the information they are given!!

In addition I just want you to know that it is not the caseworker that makes the decision to remove kids it is the supervisor and ultimatly the Judge. CPS could not keep kids that the Judge tell them to give back. So maybe it is our legal system that is out of control not CPS.

Oh and by the way I agree with everything that this site stand for. I want to homebirth in the future. I just think that you all are using CPS to blame for a problem that is much bigger than they are.

I wish you all the best of luck in your cases. I hope that your children will be return to you soon.

CPS needs to be remade only to take those that are truely in danger. Not for dumb things that can happen to any family. We all need to get together to enact new laws that bacically take away money anytime they take a child with no obviously real reason.

CPS may not be entirely to blame. BUT many decisions are made on an individual caseworker level that can have HUGE ramifications (i.e the assumption of guilt no matter what the evidence). Bottom line, the entire system has a problem compounded by a group of caseworkers that may have little experience, hate their job, are underpaid, and most importantly, are blinded to their own biases.

We were investigated by CPS when my son was 2. It was based on a false report, made by a new next door neighbor, who was mad at my husband for throwing a piece of her trash back into her yard. I now have a fear…no, it’s almost a phobia…about every knock on my door, every car door I hear shut, & I don’t believe I should have to live with this constant fear of CPS showing back here, on yet another false report, from this woman. My whole life has been disrupted by their visit. We have GOT to find a way to reclaim our freedom to be what God made us…parents!

It’s sad that CPS is out of control when children who are really abused are left at home while witch hunts continue to seperate loving families from their children.

I had my oldest two daughters taken by CPS for 48 hours because my husbands ex-wife called in a false report. They took my kids the day before my birthday and they let me see them 1 hour on my birthday. Both my girls were crying and their eyes were bloodshot. My youngest had an ear infection when they took her, and I gave them her medicine. They never gave her the antibiotics and her ear drums ruptured. I also got both my girls back with head lice and they force me to have sexual exams done on my girls a week later. My girls were severly tramatized by this exam. The fact that they ignored my daughter was sick and needed antibiotics is unforgiving in my book. We need our parental rights back and the right to prosecute on our children being taken under false accusations.

CPS is one place to start but I agree with the above caseworker that there is a much larger family enemy lurking in the shadows - our legal system. I have been in a domestic violence situation and horrible custody battle for more than eight years now. My ex had enough charges against him to plea it down to nothing. There is heaps and heaps of evidence in addition to the childrens own cries for help. Eleven child protection service reports filed against my ex by doctors, therapist, teachers, neighbors, etc. have all been written with no action taken to protect the children from him. In the reports they tell my ex that what he is doing is abuse but that they are going to let him off with a warning and he should not do it again. He has kidnapped our kids and then has gotten corrupt lawyers and judges to give him custody despite all of the evidence against him from numerous sources. Psychological Evaluations have stated that I am the healthiest parent to have the children and yet I was recently served with an out of state order placing my 16year old in my ex’s custody against his wishes and I am only allowed to have limited visitation and communication with my two kids at my ex’s sole discression.
The CPS offices who have been caught doing this illegal removal of children should be severely punished and closed down but WAKE UP PEOPLE - The corruption is much higher up. Parents Rights is a good place to start.

[…] ParentalRights.org does great things.  I feel privileged to pass along this information.  My own sister used to work for CPS in Florida, after 5 years she had to quite because of the horrible things she saw happening to everyday folk’s who had done nothing wrong.  But if there isn’t a problem, how are you going to justify next years budget request?  Hmmm…. […]

CPS is the backbone immoral support team that secure Federal Dollars to pay corrupt judges, lawyers, DHS, other industries such as the pharmasuitical, medical/mental health and so forth. Organize childkidnapping and wrongful detainment by CPS workers provides them job security and advancement.

The State of Georgia through Richmond County Department of Family and Children wrogfully removed and detained my children without substaintiating the case, nor during an investigation. Currently, I have filed a lawsuite in Northern GA District Court Atlanta division against the State of GA for depriving my family our constitutional, civil, fundamental, human, and parental rights. The case was dismissed due to lack of jurisdiction and limitation. IWe are going to continue fighting our case until justice is given and our violators are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

What is that case worker doing on a Parental Right site anyway? Isn’t that the biggest oxymoron I have ever heard of?? My husband worked for Social Services in Nebraska for three years and out of the 116 times he removed children from their homes, there was only 1, (that’s right, parents, ONE) time that it was because of ligitmate abuse. My husband says that for 6 months of training, they trained on how to “bluff”. “Social Workers are trained to make nothing out of something.” Direct quote from husband. After finally realizing that he was causing more harm than good to these innocent families, he quit.

We started homeschooling after 2 public school teachers told us to look into it. Now, that is scary! When a public school teacher tells un in a parent/teacher conference to take our kids from the system. Maybe they know something the average parent doesn’t.

Throught our homeschooling journey, I have had 1 call from a social worker who said someone called on my children who were outside playing at 2:30 in the afternoon when school isn’t out till 3pm. My children were so scared at how ill mannered this stranger was and how she tried to push their mom away from the door so she could come in. Because I know how social workers are trained and I was not intimidated by her threats, it made her belittle me more infront of the children.

When I was questioned later on by my children as to why and adult would act like that, what was I to say? We decied to tell them the truth. I explained to my kids that “some people are like that who work for the state. They are mean and want to take kids away from their parents for no reason. They want to be the parents and make you go back to public school.”
I suggest that depending upon your children’s ages, you do the same thing. Prepare your children. You have to tell them the truth. My husband says to teach your child to NEVER talk to social workers, strangers. And for the parents out there. NEVER speak to one either. Ask for their business card and call your lawyer.
The only defense this Case Worker has for herself and other people in her profession is “It’s our job” Than change jobs! HELLO!! Research how many times children are removed with no prove or reason and then placed back with the parents. See if that is something you really want to contuine with in your life. How can people like that even sleep at night?!

Yes, more corruption is at higher levels, however, a social worker who comes to your door has the power to remove your children. They are the most corrupt. Like I said, 6 months of training to bluff (aka LIE).

Sorry for my speeling up there. I just get so sick to my stomach hearing this crap. This case worker up there is full of crap. Don’t listen to her lies. ANY case worker can immediatly romove ANY child. It is up to their descretion. The worker just has to “feel the children are unsafe” in the home.

She is just cracking me up. Unbelievable! She says that “So maybe it is our legal system that is out of control not CPS.” Hello! Than quit your job!!! You won’t be the first nor the last!

Then she admits to having to interrigate innocent children and parents “.. based on false information.” Sick! Totally sick

Since my husband quit the Social Worker in Nebraska and we left that state, he is now in emergency medicine. Let me ask you, what if he killed someone because the info he was given in the ER was “BASED ON FALSE INFORMATION”???? It’s his job to MAKE SURE the info ins’t false. Assess the patient then make the call. Not take someone’s word that the patient had a heart attack!!

That is a typical statement from a social worker. Always trying to pass the buck and blame.

I am sorry but this has to stop. I am tired of them getting away with abusing our children. It is the system that is abusing them.

I agree with the statement that the system is corrupt and is in need of serious reconstructing and a better way of keeping track of case workers and validation of information provided.

Here is the flip side of the coin to think about, at one point in time the system was in some ways too laxed and children who were in actual danger were never helped. The goal now of the system, at least here where I live in my county, is they are about reuniting children with their families because there has been too many drug out cases. Within 3 days parents start visits with their child(ren) and they meet the foster parent(s).

I am not a social worker but, I think that there are too few and far between a good, out there for the family case worker and that’s what we need to help the system become something that is there for the children who really need it, and using wisdom and care in their decisions.

I’m a 31 year old mother of 4 sons. 6 yrs ago while only having 3 children I had a nervous breakdown and had my children taken by CPS and arrested for child endangerment.My CPS worker informed my family that”his job was to take my children away from me, not to give them back”. He wouldn’t recommend crucial services etc for my children and I to be reunified. Even though I enrolled myself voluntarily into any and every single class offered in my area the courts would not give me credit for the classes I attended and completed due to them not being court ordered or requested by CPS. CPS didn’t order or request services until I was so far into the case that I’d never be able to complete the services to the courts satisfaction. I failed to reunify with my children and 1 was adopted out the other 3 placed with their fathers who had not been a part of their lives. My 4th child was taken from me 13 hours after a c-section delivery and given to my abusive husband who physically attacked me while I was pregnant with our son. It was documented but, because I fought him back in self defense and failed to reunify with my other children the courts awarded my now ex custody and informed me that if I were to have any more children they to would be removed. My oldest son is now 13 and wants to come live with me and my new husband. While in the custody of his father and stepmother he acted out in hopes they’d send him back to me. After failed attempts of them trying to institutionalize him they’ve illegally placed him with 3 other family members and denied me of all of my parental rights to him. My husband and I are going for custody of him but can’t afford a lawyer to represent us. My ex has an atty who has represented all of my ex’s and is just as bad as CPS. She never wants to see me reunify with my children ever again. I’m so lost and feel like I am in a war that I will never win. But, I love my children more than anything in the world and I want them back. They want to be back with me! How can I not fight? It would just make my children feel more abandoned by me then they already feel. My county is corrupt and it’s just getting worse.

I too lost my kids to CPS (Dec 15, 1988). the reason because I had just knocked over a bowl of empty peanut shells, had clean laundry some of it folded on the couch, a burn mark on the floor in front of the bathroom that they claimed was feces, and an unused diaper on the floor of a child’s messy bedroom. My oldest was running away from home a lot due in part to his father’s drinking - I wanted to run away from home during that time too. The police picked him up about Nov 15, 1988. He didn’t want to come home. The police then proceeded to right up an offense report dating it for Oct. 28, 1988 and an arrest report for Oct. 29, 1988. I wasn’t even home or even informed that it had be done. I was never even arrested and didn’t know about these until after I went too court. On about Dec 4, 1988 I had to go to court to answer to charges of child endangerment. According to CPS I am a great mom but I have my priorities wrong - only clean house don’t spend time with my kids. I spent 3.5 months in jail for the endangerment charge. Went to the parenting classes and got counseling to deal with seperation issues which were court ordered to be paid for by DHS - I ended up paying for it myself. On Mar 7, 1990 I was told by the CPS worker that I either admit to molesting one of my children or I would never get them back. On Jan 23, 1993 I was forced to sign off on my PR for my 3 youngest children or face being charged with child molestation which I didn’t do - they just wanted to keep my kids. Today, CPS is telling my oldest child a son is being told that if he has any contact with me whatsoever they will come in and take his 2 little girls. I have reunited with one of my children and know where the other 2 are. Unfortunately one of the kids who I never lost my PR too is now in jail in Texas for aggrevated kidnapping. The good news - he plans to sue the state that made his life heck when he gets out and for making slanderous lies against me claiming that he had said those things.

This is super scary. I have never even ha a contact with CPS and I still look over my shoulder constantly because we homeschool. My husband thinks I’m being paranoid by not letting the kids outside during normal school hours, but I think I’m just being better safe than sorry. It is totally ridiculous that good parents who care about their children have to deal with worries like this because the child welfare system has grown out of control like a cancer. It has to be stopped!

I was threatened to have my youngest daughter taken away when I reported that her brother-in-law had molested her. The detective decided that I was trying to keep my son-in-law from seeing his children as my oldest daughter divorced him. It scared my grandkids so much that my oldest granddaughter refused to admit that her dad had been raping her since she was seven! CPS needs to change their name. They do anything but protect!

It would appear from all your blogs that our legal system now stands for “you are guilty until proven innocent!” I too homeschool my two daughters. I also belong to HSLDA–Home School Legal Defense Association. A wonderful organization for those of you who do homeschool. They will protect you and your rights should any issue arise. Check them out! Also, make sure that you join and become active with your local homeschooling group/association. Strength is in numbers.

I agree with Jaybee, Dian, and Rose. I too homeschool although I did not state that in my last post. I do not let my children out during normal school hours as well, there is extra wisdom needed when we homeschool because the schools don’t like it. My sis in-law homeschools in CA and she is the same way. Better safe than sorry. I live in NY where the regulations are so strict you have to be on your toes. I belong to HSLDA as well and have needed their services before to deal with illeagle activity the district was trying to get me to report. Thank God for a foundation shuch as this, to have the backup and protection that we need.

Question to the CPS worker: if they are just doing the best they can with the information that they are given, then why do they not ask for the parents’ side of the story. Most people who have never had to deal with DHS/CPS dont realize that it is the caseworkers who are taught to be cynical of the stories that parents tell. Therefore all parents are liars. We parents are not even asked for our side of the story before they go before the judge to get our kids taken away. The only information that the caseworkers use is what they ask the informer and what they ask the kids. I am not saying that our kids are liars, but that the caseworkers accept the child’s viewpoint as mature and adultlike. Children by definition cannot view life and things that happen with the objectivitiy that caseworkers assign to their stories. That is the definition of guilty before proven innocent.

When two adults have a difference of opinion the truth is usually somewhere in the middle of both sides of the story. If the caseworker does not have both sides of the story then he/she does not know what really happened. This is not enough evidence to have kids taken away in most of these cases. Yet it is done everyday!

WHY????

It all comes down to “the almighty dollar.” CPS caseworkers are working for a government agency that is funded by money trickling down from Federal funding. The more cases in which the county has to place children out of the home, (Foster Care grants) the more money goes into their system. CPS workers are promoted within the agency when seen as those that “do their job well”, meaning most times, as workers that find the abused children and place them somewhere else. My son is mentally disabled, was arrested, placed in juvenile hall. After 88 days of trying to get him OUT of Juvenile Hall (Orange County California) I was forced to sign papers stating that I could not care for him, this got him OUT of juvenile hall, and placed with the dept. of social services. Meanwhile, I went through DUE PROCESS hearings in the special education dept. of his school district and won the settlement making the district responsible for his placement. He is entitled to all services under AB3632, including mental health services. The district, in spite I feel, told me there was no school appropriate for him in our state of California and placed him in the state of UTAH! When I challenged this, they (court) threatened to take all my educational rights away! Now, I have been given custody back of my son, (court order) but still face the outrageous and useless “services” ordered upon me by the dependency court, Sec. 300. In other words, even when Federal law mandates a child receive services under AB3632, and CPS has no business in the matter, they refuse to let go…they just don’t go away! Federal law states that a parent not be forced to give up custody of their child in order to receive mental health services…I had to. Now, I am fighting to get my 15 year old son, with Traumatic Brain Injury back home. Oh, by the way, in the beginning of all this, he was the abuser upon ME. I have never been found to be abusive in any way. CPS and the court removed my son from me to “protect” me from my son, but I suffer all the wonderful fiery hoops they choose to make me jump through. Crazy isn’t it? It doesn’t make any sense. This whole thing started April of 2006, two years later it still goes on. I pray for an end to this nightmare soon, I don’t know how much more I can take. But if I give up…they win and I will never let that happen.

From a strongly christian perspective:
Let all parents be warned! The U.N. has begun the process of instituting a One-World government. This began several years ago with the final “ironing out” of the European Union. The treaty for the American Union is already signed (Pres. George W. Bush). The World Counsel of Churches has begun the process of instituting a One World Religion (with the recent change of the Pope’s official title to “Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church”. These organizations are NOT freedom-friendly. Read the book of Revelation.
The UN Convention on the Rights of a Child is based on the idea that the UN has the right to govern free and independent states. Our own government, with those of Canada, Mexico, and Europe (as well as very likely Asian and South African governments) are supporting this idea, but very quietly, so that everything shall be accomplished without a chance for public outcry against it. This behavior by secular and church governing organizations has been predicted by God’s chosen prophets for over 2000 years (Daniel, quoted by Jesus, called it the “abomination of desolation”). WATCH OUT.
On CPS. CPS is very much in favor of the UN Convention on the Rights of a Child, and is probably one of the organizations that helped frame it. This convention would give CPS caseworkers _unlimited_ power to do all the things most of you are complaining about. Fight the Convention. Fight CPS. Don’t let what happened to me happen to you. I will not make my whole story public as yet, but suffice it to say that my wife and I, like several of you, face false charges of Child Abuse thanks to improper procedure in the supposedly abused child’s school, a CPS caseworker who is _typical_ of the breed, and the feelings of the State that it has the right to interfere in decisions made on a religious basis. Fortunately, the child in question has acquired a good lawyer, and is working our side of the case herself. Additionally, my wife and I have good lawyers who are doing their best to protect our rights. Nevertheless, thanks to CPS, we have not been in regular (or legal) contact with our “abused” child for three months, going on four, and face a felony indictment based on nothing more than the word of a CPS caseworker who is mad with power.
On a brighter note (sort of) we do know that not all caseworkers are evil monsters out to get us. The caseworker we had before this one was eager to help us resolve problems that required investigation, and did a very good job. Unfortunately, he was forced to quit because he could not tolerate being expected to behave the way other caseworkers act.
In any case, the big deal is to pray for God to protect our rights. Nobody else will give us protection in today’s geopolitical-religious climate.

We are in the middle of a case with CPS concerning our nephew who was placed in our care after his sisters death. I had never dealt with CPS, and never wanted to, simply from hearing so many scary things. I do homeschool, and they all seem interested in this, and some a bit wary of my situation. I try to cooperate, but get irritated when I see them fishing my kids for information. I didn’t do anything wrong, I’m just helping a child in a bad situation, yet I feel sometimes they’re investiagting me as if we’re the guilty part. Some have been nice, others quite rude as if they had a right, I find it all a bit disturbing.
It also makes us not want to help. I feel for my nephew, but if things keep going the way they are, we are going to put him back into the system. I don’t need ignorant people making accusations and ruining my kids lives. We are loving parents who would do anything for our kids, and they live in a healthy clean home, so why do they act like we’re the convicted party?

To CPS Worker:
While I understand you are not capable of changing the law - here’s my thoughts. I’ve been subjected to the abuse caused by mentally unstable people in my life. I’ve been both abused, and had people attempt to hurt me further (when I become an adult and could no longer be physically assaulted because it was now within my reach to make a police report). The attempt to harm me in my adult life was by attacking me as a parent and making false allegations against me. WITHOUT A JUDGES ORDERS - Children’s Protective Services removed my, then, 1 year old son, from my custody and placed him with my abusive mother - who just happened to be a cop. So this made her all trustworthy. Upon my protest, I was considered “uncooperative, and highly emotional”. Allow me to point out that a parent who doesn’t cry after their beloved child is torn from them for NO FOUNDED REASON - there is something wrong with that parent. There is NOTHING wrong with the parent who cries and is hurt emotionally for having their child taken away ILLEGALLY! You say kids can’t be removed by CPS Without a Judge’s order or a supervisors order? I’d like to know how a supervisor, who is virtually unreachable to contest with, has gained some legal right to make a decision based on “words”. This should belong solely to the right of a Judge who has to have the accused party present and allowed to speak/defend themselves BEFORE a decision is made in this manner. I also believe that a law should be imparted into our system stating very clearly that if allegations are made and found untrue, you WILL face criminal charges! This is a sure fire way to reduce petty fights and abuse of the system to harm one another. It’s also a sure fire way for CPS to knoc that the person making the report has been noted to make false allegations before. If a report is made - there should be NO anonymity. The reporting party should be met with IN PERSON by the case worker BEFORE meeting/accusing the parent. The reporting person should have to provide legal identification that is recorded by the caseworker so that their information is entered into the system later and if the report is found false - they are now labeled as a person who makes false allegations. People will be extremely careful when reporting others now. Anonymity can still exist by keeping the accused from knowing who the accuser is, UNLESS they case is found false. Then the anonymity should be released. This way parents can protect themselves later and stay AWAY from the accuser.

Until these changes are made - the system is incredibly flawed and I do not care how many CPS Workers state their side of the story … there is an injustice going on and it cannot be denied.

Everyone -

I am asking that one day out of a week be devoted to fasting and prayer about CPS. This battle is a spiritual one. God is the “ONLY” ONE that can help! Like the previous comment that was made, this thing is bigger than what whe know and think. We as parents need to plead the blood of Jesus over our families and children. The Lord sees “all the corrpution that is going on”…The devil is a lier and will continue to be one, he knows that his time is near end and as a result; his spirit is in the hearts of this organization, our government, our judicial system and throughout the world!!! Again, I encourage everyone to devote one day out of the week to fasting and prayer over this organization, our government, judicial system and the world. May God bless you and America!

America needs to stand up for the children - CPS has the power because we’ve sat by complacently and allowed them - we’ve given them the power and now we’re whining about it!!! Being in the situation currently, and not being from the USA, it’s horrible to hear that there are some who would dare to stand up for CPS - it doesn’t matter that there are people who call CPS in for petty or false reasons, there are still CPS officials who can just make that determination and leave, but they don’t - they terrorize you and nail you down as a criminal - they don’t even listen to the children - who it’s all about right??? WRONG!!! - Follow the money, that’s what it’s about… They can’t let you go - it’s their own sordid addiction - don’t trust CPS - don’t trust Social Services - don’t trust Public Defenders - I’ve learnt that the only way I can get CPS off my back is to go back at them and attack them for all they’re worth… I’ve no support in America and I’ve been told by nearly 40 lawyers that unless my case garners media attention, they won’t help me, because the system is so deep and corrupt. But, my child is more important to me than she’ll ever be to CPS - how dare they!!!!! They better watch out - I will take them down without the lawyers… They attacked the wrong family… Stand up for your children, AMERICA!!!!

After reading this, watching my child play with his train table, I don’t have any answers anymore. I know one thing for sure, we attract the very things we are mentally consumed by. If we are consumed with vengeance, spite and resentments towards the people who have hurt us, we will attract only more. I don’t devote my life to fighting anymore, with judges, with attorneys, with people who have been bred and conditioned to obey orders without conscience. There are judges out there who went to law school because they believed they would help people, and there are people in the system who, as blind as they are to the reality that its not what they think it is, they still have souls. Of the many encounters I have had with people working for the system, there is a gem, who, if I treat delicately and with respect, can turn around the whole thing singlehandedly. If we are always judging those in the system so harshly, we will loose our ability to see when there is someone, who by thier very actions, does little things to overturn the corruption, one bit at a time, who can help us. I focus on the social service workers, the police officers, neighbors, judges and lawyers who do act with integrity,who do have genuine intentions, and who arent totally blind to the corruption, and who believe thier powers are for good. But telling them that they are sheep, working for the man, and resenting them, will do about as much good as telling a fish to fly. People like being recognized and seen as important. If you can give them that in a positive way, they dont have to find thier importance by doing misdeeds. In as much as it seems a mere abstraction these words are the truth no less than the stories told. I hope that as everyone on this board and outside this board continue to take responsibility for the parts of thier lives they do have control over, so too will the parts that they are powerless over resolve themselves as well. With love and respect, Reese

My son is a victim of Illinois Department of Children and Family
Services. They forced him into a Residential Home. He is only 9 years old
To many children are taken away from their parents for no reason. My son was forced to go here because of an over zealous and vindictive worker. She has lied and twisted everything she has presented to the court. This case was supposed to be about protecting a young 16-year-old girl. Then the courts in Salem Illinois took a twisted turn and failed to protect her and not try the rapist. DCFS did not press the issue of the rape they let him go they are just as guilty as the court and the rapist. I want everyone to know how the system works and lets rapists walk free. James Creason the states attorney in Marion County Salem IL
Did not protect my daughter. Instead he decided to file bogus
Charges on me and did not investigate. The Judge Kathleen Moran also failed to look at all the facts and turned a deaf ear when James Loyd JR admitted to the fact. Dcfs decided to go after my son because he was having problems in school and they forced him into this home with no testing.
PARENTS BEWARE! THE COURTS AND DCFS SAY WE HAVE NO RIGHTS AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED NO DUE PROCESS BY THE COURTS! WE ARE FORCED TO DO WHAT THEY SAY OR THEY THREATEN US WITH REMOVAL OF OUR CHILDREN.
WE MUST STOP THIS DESTRUCTION OF AMERCAIN FAMILIES

WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR LIVES
We decided to move to a different town because my son needed to be closer to his dad. Thats when the school decided to tell dcfs worker Linda Shawback they did not want Adam there because he was a problem. I told her he was getting help and I would home school him due to the fact he could not handle the homebound teacher coming to the house. I was told that there was going to be an Iep meeting at the school and during the meeting the school did not want to retest Adam. They told his father and I that they wanted to send him to a home. We told them that no that would be the last resort. Lynda Shawback then told me I had no other options. I fought this and the threats continued.
She got a court order and on June 30th of 2003 Adam was forced to live there in the Baby Fold in Bloomington/ Normal IL. He is still there due to pending court date in January of 2004 In Ottawa IL. I will up date this later
New info: Our court date has been changed to February 18,2004 they want Adam’s therapist to testify. But she had been on leave since November 6th, 2003 and came back on January 10th 2004 Adam is doing well in school. But the last Iep on September 26th of 2003 the meeting did not go to well with Lynda Shawback. She got mad because I taped the meeting. Judy Hopkins and Dr Kirk of Streator School District were there and they did not like me taping either. I asked them “what do you have to hide?” They refused to answer finally Judy said nothing. Of course when Lynda Shawback wrote her report she tried to make me look bad! I have found out that Streator school district has violated both state and federal laws by not offering the least restricted environment for learning. Instead they passed the buck onto Babyfold which is a residential treatment center. And it is not the least restrictive place for him to learn. They did not place him in a school within reasonable miles that could have given him what he needed. Rather than placing him at Babyfold. The school did not even try to find him another school to go to. With in another district in reasonable amount of miles. Streator Public Schools are in violation. And they have broken both state and federal laws. The school is suppose to be paying for Adam to stay there but the state is getting 5,000 a month from federal funds to keep him they’re from his family. Nine-year old boy needs to be home not locked in a baby prison away from his family and friends.
Adam has been coming home on the weekends. But emotions run high. And my children are afraid that dcfs will try to force them to live in a foster home. They have seen friends fighting to get their kids back from a broken system.
DCFS needs to be held accountable for the lives they destroy.
The courts need to be reformed and the system revamped.
To many judges and dcfs/cps workers are getting away with breaking the laws. And the judges that are suppose to uphold the law break it.
On March 10th the Baby Fold decided it is time to transition Adam home. Lynda Shawback seems to forget who his parents are. And she again has over stepped her limits. I have found out that she has violated a lot of the state laws. She does not like parents that do not bow to her.

Up Date Sept 11,2006

It has been 2 years since Adam has been home he has gone through a lot of changes. One of the biggest changes is we moved again due to job change for me.
Adam has played base ball for 2 years now and loves it. He has grown up so much. He sometimes still has problems with thinking dcfs will bother him again. I keep telling him that he is fine and they will leave us alone. I know he has seen people we know lose their kids to DCFS and he is always telling them that it will be ok. it is sad for a 12 year old little boy to know how wicked people can be.
I know that when children are removed from their families it is a very heart breaking time for both parents and child. I am hoping that when Adam is grown up that he will help people who children have been removed by the state.
What disturbs me the most is the foster families will keep a life book and they will put pictures of themselves in this book and brainwash the children into thinking they are their family and their real parents don’t want them any more! there are a lot of children that are brianwashed by the social wreckers or the foster parents into thinking their parents are no good and that best place for them to be is in foster care!
Illinois has a show on tv every week with the pictures of children that are up for adoption. Most of these children are never adopted and end up ageing out of the system. There are other children also who have been adopted and then put back into the system after their adopters scream wrongfull adoption.
Another thing is most of the children in foster care are placed on adult drugs and given aduldt doses of these drugs because the state will say they are add or adhd.

I feel that every parent needs to know what CPS/dcfs will do to their families! I feel that case workers that lie need to be held accountable for their actions! there should be no imunity for them. Any court official needs to be held accountable for what they do! Judges that act like they are above the law and not go by the laws need to be disbarred! Or even fined.
We as parents need to demand our rights and fight back!

There are to many kids being removed from their homes! This is like a witch hunt on parents. DCFS threatens parents with removing their kids and do it without court orders! They will go into the school your child goes to and you don’t even know it.
In Mount Vernon IL. Jefferson County There has been around 60 children removed a month for little or no real reason!

What Adam is doing now

Pam and Will Gaston fought Oregon for years and won. http://www.avoiceforchildren.com The sad thing is Melissa has never been able to go home. She like thousand of other kids have not been able to because of a corrupt system and biased judges and case workers.
parents are being attacked and threatened by our courts and dcfs if they speak out about what their children are going through in foster care. Please help us in getting laws changed and our voices heard

My daughters were taken from me in court without a warrant in the state of Utah by the GAL who was supposed to represent my daughters for our request to protect them from their dad who was pimping them to his friends and threatening to do more and to “tear us apart.” He gave them to the dad’s sister and they live with the dad and her to this day. My oldest threatened to jump from my car today. I had my one day a month visit, and she seemed to belief that would terminate my visitation rights. I have not abused my children ever. The judge ruled my beliefs are “weird” and that I had gotten a 12-year divorce and that was abusive. My divorce lasted two months. DCFS tried to doctor the ruling to say I was found guilty of abuse. We objected and the judge signed it anyway. I have not heard from my lawyer. Any suggestions, anyone?

Appeal Appeal Appeal, then write out the affidavits of facts, and attach with appeal.

Contact agencies any and all local national, whether you need them or not, They may be able to refer you. You have to be proactive.
Meet and network with any groups, myspace, and blogs to stay connected.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/5/in-support-of-lisa-and-bella-smith-2

Our children were taken with no investigation, no warrant, no reason 2 years ago becuase a dr is writting a book on Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy. This same dr also accused 10 other moms in the area(she is a peditrician,diagnosing “mental illness) We lost in family court, then we lost appeal. This Dr was the reporter, investigator,and expert witness. She lied and was given immunity. CPS is bad, but our justice system is more corupt. Talk about witch hunt, I was accused of something you cant ever prove.

So we are 2 years into it, my attorney quit after we lost appeal. I am trying to find attorney that will go civil and find loophole in system.

The one thing I learned is once they do the wrong thing they will do anything to cover up the mistake even if it means removing you from your kids forever.The more you fight the harder they retaliate. It doesnt matter how many people support you, you cant win in a broken system.

I disagree with the CPS person above. There may be some instances where they are deceived by false information, but there are many cases where parents try to stand up for their rights and the social workers take all the kids to show their power. That is what happened to us. All 3 of our kids were taken even though 2 of them were not getting the spankings CPS said is never acceptible.

America is in a culture war. CPS tends to be staffed by liberals who believe they have the right to take your kids if you parent different than what they believe. That is un-American.

This is America and parents should have rights over their kids. The kids should not be pulled because of disagreements on spankings.

We found the name of our social worker on the web as an activist in several liberal organizations. We are conservatives. They took our kids because they could and to make us an example. Our social worker knew exactly what she was doing.

WOW-I thought I was the only one!!

Now I feel quite lucky, however. A little over a year ago, my then 3 year old’s son’s father decided I didn’t know how to discipline and he was going to teach us both a lesson. At MY house he decided to hit him for something. I interviened. He proceeded to take my son with him, my son was screaming for me-it was quite an ordeal.

I called the police.

Now this is where I get confused.

The police called CPS. CPS investigated ME…not my son’s father since the allegations were concerning my son and he lives with me.

Luckily everything was dropped and they felt the case unfounded-I am sure they could have found something if they looked. But I really didn’t appreciate my children being interviewed in another room and then having to wait for a letter clearing me when all I had done is protect my son from a lunatic father.

The saddest part about all of it is that my children were fine, it was evident from the police report, I was protecting them. There are kids out there that aren’t fine and nothing is being done to help them.

Violet, I read your post on another site and just read your comments above. As I stated on the other page, who is credible to diagnose the syndrome? Based on what you stated on both pages, you have a great appeal to another jurisdiction! Sometimes, we have to do things ourselves if we can’t find attorneys? Discredit the physician to stop what’s happening. Post something on YouTube or somewhere so that other parents in the county know what the physician is doing. Get a copy of your transcript and take out an ad. Do a speech at your local library in the county where the problem is occurring. Bring attention to your county to stop parents from suffering. Do whatever is legal to spread the word about the rogue system in place.

I’d like to know what county this happened in New York. I’d like to get copies of the case and review it.

This amendment is clearly needed. If no judge or magistrate signed an order for removal, then an officer must have removed a child. Most officers are well-trained on when to remove children. I am a retired sergeant and when I went through the academy (followed by coaching with the same information) it was made clear to remove children based on my opinion as an officer, not the case workers. So, if there was an immediate removal by an officer, there must be some type of immediate danger evidenced to the officer, not a rogue caseworker. However, as I understand it, without an officer, caseworkers still need the courts to remove a child. Thus, an order is signed for the removal. The parents do not have to be present (and often don’t know it’s in process if you don’t know what to do). Time is of the essence in these cases when your child is subject to removal.

Case workers present information to their supervisors but the caseworkers go to court. I have sat in on cases where the caseworker did not show and it was stated they were out ill (but actually in the office). This type of information should be entered into the court record to show that the case worker is a liar.

I have read caseworker’s court records that show “alleged” and no investigation was conducted. Further, there is no further investigation done once the child is removed. A “case plan” is developed for parents to follow and several court dates later, the children are released.

Once parents start agreeing to case plans out of desperation, the allegations are not proven. Just go through their case plan and you can get your child back (if they don’t try and adopt the child out).

A competent attorney would follow up on the progress of the investigation. You will find abuses over and over again where investigations cease and case plans are instituted. Yes, calls come in, but what about the investigation of the calls going beyond snatching children from their parents.

Find out how long the investigation is going to take. Usually, the investigation consists of harassing parents into talking and the parents words may not always end up like what was said. And, why give a telephone interview where you have no control over what is written down by the case workers?

Did you obtain any copies of how an investigation is conducted? Through “discovery” these records should be entered into court cases to determine if the case worker “investigated” the allegations.

There is a larger picture here with an agenda for our children. The ruling in California is a glimpse into our future.

It is time now to stand up for our rights and stop the erosion of our Constitution.

I ensure that my children are with me during school hours. We have our physical education while kids are walking to the school bus and mid afternoon (if time permits). If we go to stores during school hours, my children remain with me in the store. They understand that there are people who call in false complaints and that there are people with ignorance (prejudicial) ideas about homeschooling. There’s no need helping our neighbors stumble in ignorance. And, my children are no longer in elementary school (yet, we are still careful not to bring unnecessary attention to us).

Do your children know how to “articulate” they are participating in their physical education period? When asked why they are not in school, do your children know to answer, “I am in school” …? Have you had a civics class with your children to let them know when officers and case workers should be in their home and when to speak or exercise their right to remain silent? Do your children know which questions to ask of caseworkers and officers? Stranger danger should not end with the pervert in the car. Your children don’t know if they’ll be removed and placed in a home with a pervert (or abuser) or not. If you are taking care of your children, why should your child be led to believe they are being removed to a “safer” place?

As a home schooling parent, I openly discuss all issues with my children. The other day in Panera Bread, I had an older male come up to me when my children went to the bathroom. He stated, “I just wanted to tell you how wonderful it is to see a parent have a great relationship with your children. I watched and listened to you and your children while sitting over there and you just don’t see that anymore with children of that age.”

God blessed me to share with my children communication. I do not limit our communication. We do not cross out topics because it may not be taught at church or at school. Yes, I take into consideration their ages in my responses, but we still communicate on all topics.

We have to stop being the victim and accept our roles as parents and citizens. Caseworkers and officers serve us during times of sound and competent behavior. If they fail to exercise either, they should be removed.

Seek competent, experienced attorneys, know your rights, and support the amendment (in my opinion) to help reduce the problems we are reading about here.

Even though I don’t have many years left to raise my children, I still believe that I should do all I can for the parents yet to successfully raise their children.

What day are we praying for this issue?

Thank you (above) There are so so many details to our story, I couldnt possibly put them all on this page. I am in Suffolk County NY the Dr is Dr Debra Esernio-Jenssen with Schnieders childrens Hospital. (She went from sbs to msbp).

Our local paper NY Newsday ran a huge story in Nov 06, very biased. We then appeared on Geraldo on Dec 11th and the Judge issued a GAG order with no hearing.

We want to get jurisdiction changed but dont know how? Another mom that went through this several years ago had it moved to Fla, after 6 years and won.

I will tell you CPS NEVER did their own investigation they fully relied on what the “peditrician” diagnosed and claimed to investigate. The only person that can diagnose MSBP is a PHD, in which they never had evaluation done. I went to 3 Forensic Evaluations by the top experts in the Country Dr Eric Mart, Dr Loren Pankratz and Dr Shephen Honor, all concluded I do not have MSBP, and Dr Jenssen falsified information. The court threw out the PHD testimony and only gave credit to Peditrician we met on 20 minutes.

We do not home school our children, but at the time of removal my son was being home tutored with a teacher because he was sick and the Dr wouldnt let him in school. We tried to get him back in several times but the school would not let him unless he could go fulltime and dr wouldnt let him.

Another thing is CPS never put in any of their records to court and the Dr that made reported never put in her records either.

I was never given any services whatsoever, despite me asking several times. There was never any service plan until last month. The only thing they have on it is for me to go to counceling with PHD. The phd says the whole thing is crazy and the only thing wrong is stress from what they have done to us as a family.

I am in a strange predicament, if I speak out, I am trying to get attention and that shows “I have MSBP” if I dont do anything, Im not fighting for my kids.

Thank you, if you know any resources or attorney that could help me on what I can do please let me know. I thought I had the best attorney but as I said they gave up.

I would dearly love to see the CPS workers have their children removed from them and placed with foster and adoptive parents, for no other cause than to experience the pain they inflict on so many families. They are human just like us but have chosen the most antiBiblical profession there is besides prostitution. I have had my own minor scrapes with them and they are NOT APPRECIATED or TRUSTED!!!!

We were foster parents and finally quit because we were so disgusted with the social workers/supervisors. They took kids away for reasons that didn’t make sense to us….and in most cases we’d see the kids up for adoption very fast. We tried to adopt at one point and they were like car salesmen, pushing us towards quickly choosing kids and signing the papers. When we tried to take it slow and make sure they were going to give the kids all the services they deserved, they told us WE needed psychological assessments. That’s when my husband said ENOUGH…and we sadly sent two young teenagers back to the workers, knowing they’d probably never get another chance at an adoption. As foster parents, we often found ourselves defending the parents, inviting them to see the kids as often as possible….and many of the social workers thought that was strange. We saw one teenage mom lose her child who she loved very much (we could tell, believe me) because she had voluntarily given her up to care when her own mother was investigated. They told this young girl that it would be in the child’s “best interests” and they’d help the teen mom get services and then get her child back. She never did. They offered the little girl to us…we said no because it felt so wrong…and she was quickly adopted by someone else. My mother was a social worker, and we worked with a couple of fantastic, older experienced social workers along the way, but my experience as a foster parent really soured me on the profession and CPS. (The best social workers are the ones who have BEEN foster parents–not always allowed, but we had one like that in San Diego.) I also warn people about being foster parents unless you ALSO want to put yourself in the potential firing line. And be careful about adoptions, too. It’s sad, but very true. The whole process is a mess. We’ll never try to help again for fearing of them targeting us. They love uneducated foster parents, by the way. The kind who don’t ask too many questions. I was in the news business at the time and was able to fight back a lot because they were afraid my station would do a story on the problems, but once I quit to stay home with my bio and foster children, I saw how truly nasty the system can be. More social workers need to stand up and speak out to newspapers and TV stations in their home towns. Call reporters and tell them what you know. They’ll protect your identity and you’ll get the whole story out.

To Violet, you’re in a political nightmare and an assault on your family. Are you still represented by an attorney? He/she would know who to appeal to.

My heart goes out to you and you will remain in my prayers. I do not want you to violate any gag order but I will try and get more information from court records and the media you referenced to attmpt to contact you that way with resources.

From what you have stated, you have a good appeal.

I want to reiterate here for others that it is vital to have your own pediatricians that you trust. This is paramount in your defense for any child protective service case. Also, any contact should be recorded! Period! Do not allow these case workers to “paraphrase” what you’ve said (if you’re advised by your counsel to speak to them at all). Make sure you have your own recording and do not rely on them. The case workers do not have to share their evidence with you the parent (directly). They have to share allegations, but evidence comes through discovery.

Second, remember television is fantasy. All those “experienced” personnel in emergency room shows lead too many people into believing that they are receiving top of the line care. My ob-gyn took care of high risk patients. He often reminded me that 50% of the doctors graduated at the top of the class and 50% did not and they all have medical degrees. He even made me promise to pass a particular hospital if I went into labor (as an agreement to attend training somewhere in my last trimester). He told me it was better for me to risk passing the hospital than to go there. What does that tell you?

I have a diverse background which includes working in hospitals and physician offices. With having more than one career, I’ve been through a lot and seen a lot. This is why it is pertinent to protect yourself and your family.

Ask your attorney which is the next highest court to appeal to? If you have no money, perhaps the resources I pass on to you, if we can make contact, will assist you in filing your own appeal. You may already be past time constraints to make an appeal for your case. I do not know. This is why your attorney should know what to do (or should have known). It’s hard to also get another attorney to try and clean up what the first attorney did not accomplish.

Hindsight is 20/20 and I hope this blog will help others know what to do as soon as they get that call to prevent abusive practices by CPS.

For example, as soon as someone would mention blood test to me, I’d take my child to my pediatrician (and submit it as advised by counsel). Or, if someone said sexual abuse, I’d take my kids immediately to my pediatrician. I would not risk taking them to someone who didn’t know me and how I’ve cared for them. If I lived in a county such as yours, I’d move out of the jurisdiction to establish myself. Or, I’d already have temporary custody arranged if having a hard time. The parents in your county are going to have to be proactive against what’s going on. As soon as there is an issue, through our attorney, it should be arranged to present evidence to CPS. Again, the workers have to go back and file the cases. If they have in their records letters from your pediatrician and psychological testing in your favor, before they go to court and seek emergency orders to take the children, this will look very bad for them once you get to court. While some information can be protected in court from the discovery, the Constitution still outlines other information that must be released to the defense. If I had money for every time attorneys take the word of prosecutors, etc, instead of following up with discovery, I’d be a billionaire. Discovery is very important. Again, I’m trying to be careful not to say too much to help abusers, only parents who are serious about caring for their children. There are many things that can be done by parents when they are not in the “victim” role as case workers and officers often expect. I do not say “victim” as a putdown - it is referencing where the caseworkers operate from - invoking fear to paralyze parents. This is why it is important not to operate from fear for God has not given us a “spirit of fear,” but “love, POWER, and a sound mind.” (my emphasis added)

I hope your attorney also has a plan that will help you. It sounds like he/she may have hit that political wall that may cost him/her too much to continue on for you (even though you’ve paid money). For example, see how the attorney lost his children too helping a family (that’s shown on this site)? There are attorneys who are licensed in more than one state and can come in and not risk being corrupted by the political system. I’m not saying this is what happened to your attorney, but something is very wrong in your county.

It’s a very sad thing to read your posts on this site about CPS. Unfortunately all of you “CPS haters” have completely discredited this site by your rants. I live in Pennsylvania and I will tell you that it is very frustrating to see the disgusting legal hoops the CPS workers here must go through to protect children. It is easier to remove a dog from a home than an abused child and the system should change. Parents must take responsibility for the upbringing of their children and must be willing to be parents. Communities, especially faith communities, must support families and conduct outreach programs to strenthen families. All of this talk about the unlimited power of CPS is disgusting and reminds me of a conspiracy theory. If you are a parent and your children were removed and the legal standard was not met by CPS, hire an attorney and appeal. I haven’t seen many parents appealing their cases to the Supreme Court. If CPS is so corrupt, do something about it. I beleive many of you are just hiding behind your lies and remember, you can hide your lies from us, however, our just God will one day make you explain all of your lies so you need to repent of your sin and fix your lives so that your family can be reunited. I have no doubt that there are CPS workers with issues, there are also parents, priests, teachers, doctors, pastors, judges, and senior citizens with issues. However, to attach the CPS workers and former CPS workers on this site is disgusting and downright wrong. You who are ranting about CPS are making many people very uncomfortable about getting involved with anything on this site and that is a true shame. Hopefully this post has made you see your situation in a new light so that you can act appropriately and restor your families. If you want a site to rant about CPS, establish a “Parents Who Won’t Take Reponsibility for their Own Actions” site and post there. I am tired of reading your lies on this site.

OK, if we are covering up for our own butt’s then why would a CPS worker who did NOT manage to take and keep a child from her parents take a falsified police report to the head of Housing and Urban Development and make the parents lose the one help that they had? Why would that same worker interfere with a totally different case with the same family, years later and have the child taken away AGAIN, when the original investigator was saying that nothing was wrong and SIGNED papers to that effect? The mother gave the papers to the judge and was told he would sleep on it- at which time the Prosecution pulled out a letter from the instigator and gave it to the judge. The judge asked them if the parents had a copy and NO the parents didn’t even know it existed before it was given to the judge! The parents were not made away that the piece of Libel was written and so could NOT write a rebuttal. The judge had only the letter of lies to go on and judged against the parents the next day. NOBODY had the chutchpa to even tell the parents that their child was not coming home. The parents let them know that the HSLDA was supposed to help them. HSLDA was scared off by CPS. Because the CPS was trying to say not just Educational neglect but abuse was happening. (This is why the judge let the state keep the child!)When they found out that HSLDA wasn’t going to help they set a lawyer who was ANTI-homeschooling to help them. The lawyer refused to go to bat for them to be able to go back to homeschooling and told them to take the offer of the child coming home IF they kept her in public school! The parents had to undergo a MENTAL evaluation which they still have not found out the results! The mother knows that she has a diagnosis and is NOT ashamed. She works with her problem and is NOT controlled by it. The father has NO problems that a “Normal” person doesn’t deal with every day also. The family has their extended family behind them and many friends who also support them. The only problem was that the state didn’t want the child out of their little training camp called public school. They had pulled the child one week after the parents went back to homeschooling their child due to differences with the school INCLUDING the fact that the school was going against the parents beliefs! A parent NO ANYONE has the right to their religious beliefs and the freedom to practice them. What they did to the child- they wouldn’t have done to a JEW! When someone doesn’t believe in eating Pork they have the right to not have a school (or anybody else for that matter!) feed a child what is against their beliefs, and the school was purposely feeding the child pork and pork products! The mother is still (a week after getting the child home) trying to explain that no we don’t eat bacon, ham and other pork products that the teacher has drummed into her head that are OK to eat that her mommy is nuts/crazy, and that the child can eat whatever she wants when she wants! The family is scared that what happened at other places will happen at their home! They have already had cops just walk into the home- no warrant- NO knocking- just walking in and going to the child’s room and picking her up and trying to walk out with her. The parents were NEVER charged with anything. Little over a month after the state stole the child the state gave her back! Only thing is….the Parents can’t go back to homeschooling- at least not for the rest of this year! The child must stay in the school system for the rest of the school year! The child has stated that she wants to be homeschooled and they don’t care. As a very bright child they lose funding if she is NOT in the class. When she came home she looked at her mother and stated I can’t be homeschooled any more mommy. Her mother told her that there is always this summer and next year to which the child brightened up.
Sorry is so long but men like that really get to me! As far as I know NOBODY on here is trying to cover up! We have been wronged and there are NO repercussions to the CPS agents/workers. What retribution can we, the parents get for having this done to us when our families and friends are persecuted IF we try to take them to court; and what attorney is willing to undertake such a charge? Our attorney surely won’t! I mean what gives anyone the right to walk into a home without knocking or a warrant? I have read up on our rights and they did walk all over them. When I asked the cop about a warrant they stated that the court paper was a warrant and they didn’t need a warrant. Then the cop stated that MY home was theirs! When they pay my rent then they can say my home is theirs! I have had cops tell me that as a disabled person I shouldn’t have the right to have children! What gives a cop the right to tell a person that they don’t deserve to have a child just because they are differently abled? Yes, I did do the upper part in third person.

D.Allen in your state they may have to go through hoops as you put it there, but around here what they say goes.”Your rights end at the start of MY nose.” Remember that and don’t lump all of us in together. While some may deserve to lose their children- SOME of us have done nothing wrong! Have crossed the wrong people maybe, but have commited no crime to lose our children. I PERSONALLY have court documents that show what we were accused of was falsified. The cops took pictures that showed the true story. A home that was a bit cluttered, but NO signs of what they were accusing us of! My husband and I were taken to court and had the charges DROPPED due to NO evidence! They knew that IF they continued that they would be exposed as the liars that they were, and be prosecuted as such!

Dont Give up our Rights,

I do not have an attorney anymore, he quit when we lost appeal. He was going to file in Court of appeals but decided it would cost too much money. I have no $ left, I am in need of attorney that can help determine if anything can be done. I know there must be something, there has to be, just who will do it is the question.

Violet, I have forwarded this link to someone who might be able to help you.

I am happy to hear that Pennsylvania is cautious about removing children. As I stated in another blog on this site, officers and case workers are fully capable of removing children when probable cause exists. Officers are granted the power in every state to protect and to recognize imminent danger. A judge would not want to hear a child was killed because they refused an emergency removal request. If the information is brought to the judge or magistrate, a child can easily be removed.

The reason for this site is that, too often, too many of the case workers have proceeded by going on allegations with absolutely nothing substantiated. Children should not be removed solely under these circumstances.

This site is not above giving proper training to police and case workers, who should know how to do their jobs within the confines of the Constitution, and without abusing the authority they’ve been granted. This site has provided more insight for me as to the suffering parents are experiencing. While there’s been a lot of suffering, I believe the stories shared lets parents know we have to be vigilant at all times in the fight for freedom and the protection of our rights.

Longing (above) ensuring oaths are taken, and perjury pursued, is a great point. While the workers may have protection from lawsuits, there is always “other avenues” when perjury is an issue. Just because you can’t sue for the removal of the child, doesn’t mean you can’t pursue the other codes that address conduct that is not “permitted” or covered. This is why some agencies file charges the way they do. Violet, you might also want to keep this in mind in your situation.

The loving parents on this site have a great forum to share their heartache and look for hope. For those of us who have been blessed not to have endured what has been shared, we must be truly grateful. And this makes me want to give back to the parents who have been unjustly targeted. Please do not let anyone victimize you all over again like you have done something wrong. I, like many others, realize you are reaching out in your challenging times. There will always be those who judge without the facts or from their own tunnel vision.

Let’s keep sharing.

Thankyou, I have paid not attention to D Allen, did not even read all his words.

I so appreciate trying to help, and I hope you are able to locate me. What you said is true, I must find a different avenue to stop this injustice. The accuser should be disiplined for perjury, and for abusing her license over and over again. If I walk away it is only allowing the system to keep abusing our children, and that I cant do.

Again I wish there was a way to get you my information, but I willl have Faith as I have had all along.

Thank You again, and Peace to all families.

To quote Violet: “Thankyou, I have paid not attention to D Allen, did not even read all his words. ” Why would you not read my words. If you have been wronged by CPS, appeal. If the appeallate judge does not uphold the law, contact your reps and senators. I do not dount that some people have been wronged by CPS. I myself have been wronged by CPS in my position and I am working to correct this situation. The entire system needs to change from the federal government down to local CPS. But, parents and families also must change. We need more children born to married parents. We need to prepare our young people for marriage and family life. We need to support families in the community. We need to not pass items like this UN Bill as it does nothing to strengthen a family. We need to return to a biblical view of families and make that work. We are a country and world out of control when it comes to family values. I agree that CPS, police, judges, and politicians are all out of control. But so are families. After we abolish the UN let’s pass an amendment on the family. This will do more to help our children than any other regulation. I do not meant to judge any of you who have kids and are not in a committed marriage, but from my perspective, I think it would be easirer for everyone if kids were raised by two parents in a committed relationship. CPS is inundated with calls about custody issues. Everyone seems so angry in these situations. I know from my own life, I would be at a loss to raise my children if I did not have my wife and I believe she feels the same way. I do believe parents have rights. We should be able to raise our children the way we desire as long as it does not harm the child - and I mean physically or will cause problems in their development. I work with indivuduals everyday who feel they have the right way to raise children. I just received a flyer on a “Spank out” that is coming up to raise awareness of the detriment to spanking children and the need to eradicate this from our culture. Then I sat and listened to a preacher talking about appropriate physical discipline and encouragin parents to use physical discipline. No wonder parents get confused. People lived for a long time without all of these rules and regulations and they did fine. Let parents be parents. BUT let’s restore parents back to what existed decades or centuries ago. Maybe it’s not the answer, but otherwise I may be at a loss.

D.Allen;
I have read all your words. Your 2nd blog is better. But a statement in your 1st one prompts me to reply. You repeat a false statement that has been and continues to be promoted on a mass media level–that child abuse/ neglect cases are hard to prosecute. Have you ever read the Juvenile Code in your State Statutes? If you have the stomach for it, try it sometime. They read like a maze, but once you’ve finished, you’ll realize that there are more than 100 ways in which authorities can come after families and their children. And relatiation for resisting CPS involvement is ongoing in almost every case. I don’t fear them. My children who have been removed and placed in individual foster care, where real abuse occurs, do. The CPS has repeatedly placed my kids with their alcoholic mother and watched the deliterious outcomes. My children live in fear of the CPS, but this situation has improved since they all go now to private school. But I am sure that they are growing up to distrust the government authority. And I’m afraid many people like you will say that it is my fault. You should also read: State of Wisconsin Court of Appeals Case No. AP-01-2325. This case was appealled at great expense to the state supreme court. After all of my briefs were submitted (at great expense) and just before the response briefs from the state were due, the case was not heard–deemed “improvidentally granted” in the first place. Being a man of God, you may know what this means without looking it up. The gist of this case is that the State and CPS in Wisconsin can find Summary Judgement against a divorced parent, placing custody with the CPS, stripping the non-custodial parent of any parental rights or placement rights and placing him/ her under orders from the CPS. I was never even given the opportunity to answer the motion for Summary Judgment. You’ll pardon me if I don’t feel a bit angry at some of the individual caseworkers involved. And I hope that you will pardon me for divorcing a woman that drove me to the point of bankruptcy 3 times before I did so. Even with commitment and morality, things don’t always work out…

Just want to add my concern to the issue. My in-laws, who I’ve had many dealings with (and are not abusers), were investigated by CPS. It was a heart wrenching and very costly process. The only way we could get CPS to let go was to threaten a law suit to close the case. I really feel sorry for people who have no financial resources to fight the wrong doings of CPS. One liberal caseworker and a cooperating judge can ruin your life (and your children’s)

We live in Texas, and I can tell you, there is no ‘protection’ in Child Protective Services here. My niece, who is 3 1/2 years old, has to go for court-ordered visitations to her father’s. He (at 23 years of age) lives with people who raised him, and they, in turn, have various people in and out of their house. They are very controlling and dictatorial. The ‘grampy’ (as he insists on being called) likes to remove all of his clothes and lie down on the bed naked with my niece. One of the 16 or 17 year old boys in the household comes into the bathroom while my niece is in there and uses the toilet in front of her; he also walks through the house with just a washrag draped across his privates. This same boy is allowed to keep this little girl on weekends by himself. This little girl has come home on numerous occasions with some kind of thick cream packed up in her vagina, which she says her ‘mimi’ puts up in there because her ‘daddy’ hurts her up in there. She comes home covered in flea bites and filthy. These are just a few examples of what this little baby goes through. I have called CPS and filed a complaint more than once. They have come to my sister’s house and talked to both her and my mother, complimented them on how nice their home was run, and said that they would investigate. Turns out they could never catch the other party at home, so they just settled for a phone call, then they closed the case. The baby says things that she could not make up, and yet CPS says that they cannot and will not take action until she is actually violated, because she has not made what they call an ‘outcry’. They do not seem to realize that when a child thinks these ‘games’ that ‘daddy’, ‘grampy’, or ‘bubba’ play are special and just for her, she is not going to make any outcry! CPS has also threatened me with legal action if I keep up with my harrassment. Sometimes it is good to live in a small town, other times it’s not!

to Lynne. I like your comment about it not always being a good thing to live in a small town.

Just last week I had a hearing on terminating my rights for my two youngest kids after nearly 4 years in foster care. In a long complicated case, my two oldest were abused in foster care (different home than younger two) and attempted to continue this behavior on the younger two during a prolonged “trial” visit with all 4 back in my home 2 years ago.
I have never, ever done anything to hurt my kids. The only reason this started in the first place was because my then husband (the children’s father) was sleeping while I was at work. I divorced him to get a chance at getting my kids back.
Now two years after the kids were ripped out of my home a second time, I have done everything that they required of me and more. Yet my visitation with them never increasted because they did not want to see any improvements. One person in particular has been instrumental in keeping my kids from me. This is a “therapist” (and I use the word loosley because she is not a licensed therapist) whom the county always uses to help children with behavioral difficulties in foster care situations. Her word is law in this county simply because she has worked with the department for so long that no one questions her and the judege listens to her. Still we had a hearing to terminate my rights because they have been in foster care for “too long” and the foster mother is more attached to them than I am. While other kids are still being abused in the foster home where my two oldest learned this abhorent behavior.
I lost my hearing and the foster mom will be adopting them just on the word of this “therapist” who never had any kids of her own and has no concept of what a real parent goes thru.

I am going to appeal but in the meantime, I will not even get visitation with them anymore. and yet the state has not sought termination on the older two? I still can’t figure this out. I thougth they had to prove that I am an unfit parent to terminate my rights? If I am unfit then why not terminate on all of my kids?

Violet,
No offense to anyone who may honestly be trying to help you, but please be careful in contacting anyone or giving any info out. Do through someone else, in a safe way. You are vulnerable and desperate and we know the enemy has already targeted you. Please know I will covenant with you in prayer against these evils that have been perpetrated against you and your children. I was a CPS worker for 3 1/2 years until I gave up trying to think I was doing any good in such a corrupt and destructive system. We must not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good–I say this as a reminder to those of us not currently directly in the cross hairs of some CPS agency; because it is our job to defend you and stand with you, to intercede on your behalf and the others in your situation. The prayers of a righteous person avail much!

Has anyone been helped much by the Guardian ad Litem(s)?

A voice,
Thank you, I have not been able to get any assistance (at least legally). I am a very spiritual women, and believe that having true Faith is the most important especially when we walk the Vally of darkness. God and I are the majority, and I know eventually truth and majority will prevail.

Everytime we get a CPS worker that helps us, and knows how wrong the system has treated us, they change workers on us. They claim their case load is overwhelming and they cant keep up their caseload. I think if they concentrated on “real” abuse instead of innocent families there would be many people without a job.

I would still be interested in a good Law Firm to discuss options we might have. If anyone could post the name here if interested.

NO LAw Guardians always side with CPS, they flat out said they didnt care what my children wanted and fought against there wishes. There is a law here, and LG didnt follow it, but again who will take on our justice system? Everyone seems to close there eyes and make excuses.

States are in competition for these Federal Dollars. They have to supercede each prior year, the amount of children that was adopted out the past year to begin the competition. They are paid thousands for every child adopted out. It started with the Adoption & Safe Families Act brought about by “Bill Clinton” Walter Mondale said that this could lead states to create a business in dealing with children. We can learn from history. See “The Orphan Trains” See how the Federal government was involved then and also see “the secret rulers of the world” which is also in book form, yet can be viewed on you-tube (29 videos). Think the royal family isn’t involved? They want to keep the money in the family. The presidents have all been related. Isn’t is just coincidental that all the past presidents have had this phenomenal amount of money. See how they are rewarded. See that “Clinton” bought into the pharmaceutical companies and the Bush’s had enough money to invest in oil fields? The royal (300) families (secret power behind the government) get a high percentage of our tax dollars.

Our children 6 and 3 that live with there mother and grandparents made outcries against their mother and grandparents. We took them to CPS and the children were removed. About a week later my husband and his bio children were subpoenaed to appear in court at this time we did not have representation. I NEED TO STRESS the judge did not rule or order us to relinquish the children however a sheriff’s deputy did because of the final divorce decree even though we had a CPS writ for a safety plan in place for 30 days. The next day the mothers lawyer put in an order that we coached the children. We did not. That same day the mother called CPS and told them that the children told them that they were told to say those things, after having been returned to the people that they outcried against. There was a temp restraining order put in place by her lawyer and singed by the Judge at this point. We took out a loan and hired a lawyer had court 6-24-08 and the CPS agent that originally signed the order for safety plan told our lawyer he was going to suggest supervised visitation for my husband and at this moment our children are in the house and in danger. I know how crazy this sounds and I am so very concerned. We know we did nothing wrong so they must be. And now I know that CPS is believing whatever they are spouting out. Does anyone have any helping ideas. Pray for us. Tamara Nugent Gilmer TX

I could tell you my story, but after two years of struggle with these people Its almost to long to tell. They(CPS/DHS) have lied in court, on court documents, on the phone to me, threatend me and my wife in an effort to keep our children in foster care. If you complete the services that are reqiured of you, they come up with more, so there is no end in sight, hoping you give up, I WON’T EVER GIVE UP ON MY CHILDREN! The attorneys involved are all friends, they make desicions behind closed doors before the hearing is even conducted, before any testimony is heard. The feeling in the courtroom if somthing does somewhat go your way is that its all set up to calm your frustrations in “THE SYSTEM” and make you feel as though your closer to getting your children back. They give you the runaround while they are supposidly trying to find funding for these services, when they get federal funding. My children are in a foster home right now, people who have never had foster children before, I belive it is pitched to them that the quickest way to adopt is to be involved in this program, I have very good children who have never been in any trouble (10 and 13) the kind that are poster children for adoption, who wouldn’t want good kids. Now it is a fight with the foster parents also to get the kids back because the foster parents have beome emotionally attached. I wish eveyone involved in the system the best of luck, your going to need it.